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yayarea_raider
05-18-2009, 01:07 PM
http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2009/05/18/deangelo-hall-agrees-hes-had-one-charmed-nfl-career/

DeAngelo Hall Agrees - He’s Had One Charmed NFL Career
May 18, 2009 – 6:45 am by Bunk

If you’re not really a fan of DeAngelo Hall or the teams he has played on, you might agree with the assessment that the Redskins cornerback is one of the luckiest players in the National Football League. By lucky, I mean this: how could a dude really fool front office executives not just once but twice into overpaying him. First it was in Oakland, who ended up paying Hall $8 million dollars in 2008 for just 8 games of Hall’s services.

After the fiasco there, Hall was on a one-year modest contract that actually required him to, um, step up and play like a player who’s trying to get paid. Well, he got paid again this offseason by the ‘Skins, who of course, were easily convinced that Hall was worth $23 million dollars of guaranteed money.

Anyway, rant over. On to what Hall had to say about his former team, the Raiders, on WJFK in Washington D.C.

His thoughts on his new found riches (again) after signing 6-year $55 million contract full of guaranteed money:

“It’s pretty nice to be me, but even better to be a couple other guys, but it’s definitely nice to be me.”

His thoughts on being out of Oakland:

“Oh, it’s a weight off my shoulders, just that whole situation out there and the way they did things. I’m not knocking it but it wasn’t what I was accustomed to, what I was used to, and I just started just not caring like a bunch of other guys, you know. It kind of rubs off on you. They say you go to Oakland as a player to die..You can definitely go there and have fun towards the end of your career, but to go there during the prime of your career, that’s just not a place you want to be. I felt the same when I was out of there - just a sigh of relief to get out of there.”

The funniest Al Davis story from his time in Oakland?

“Probably the funniest thing, I was pretty close to Lane Kiffin…and after they fired Lane and were about to announce who the next coach was - I don’t know if you guys saw this in the media world, but I was actually sitting there live, me and a couple other players there in the back. And [Davis] went through this whole spiel of what happened…and said our next coach is Tom Cable, he’s going to be our interim coach. When everybody paused for Tom to come in, like a breakoff. [Davis] goes to the media guide and not even whispering says ‘hey, anyone got any information on this Tom Cable guy, I don’t know where he comes from.’ That’s just vintage Al Davis. Making a move, not really knowing why, no real justification for doing it. But just saying, ‘hey, I want this guy, let’s get him, I’ll figure everything else out later.’ And that’s just how Al Davis is.”

TAPE
05-18-2009, 01:09 PM
Wow..... just wow

JRaider17
05-18-2009, 01:10 PM
http://www.accessnorthgeorgia.com/img/stories/214974/deangelo_hall_medium.jpg

cheapshotartist
05-18-2009, 01:14 PM
It's the Raider way. :csa:

silver & black
05-18-2009, 01:18 PM
What a shock. LOL! The sooner this ends, the better. The Raiders will never be a real team again untill this shit changes.Go ahead and call me what you will, I really don't care if no one likes what I said..

JRaider17
05-18-2009, 01:24 PM
Hall always got burned, in ATL and here too, it was another dumb part of the management. I mean overpay a CB who gets burned, then you give a guy with multiple injuries a high contract with a clause saying if he gets injured he stills gets paid!

TheMadEskimo
05-18-2009, 01:35 PM
Haha, I'm assuming Al knows who Tom Cable is now...........and all you guys say Al Davis sticks his his nose in everything Raider related, he doesn't even know who is own head couch is!

Big O Dick
05-18-2009, 01:43 PM
Al doesnt give a shit about how embarrassing he is or how embarrassing he has made this team.

Al Davis is probably going to out live all of us and become more dilusional....God help us.

raidersforlife
05-18-2009, 02:30 PM
Hall always got burned, in ATL and here too, it was another dumb part of the management. I mean overpay a CB who gets burned, then you give a guy with multiple injuries a high contract with a clause saying if he gets injured he stills gets paid!

Note he says "I was pretty close to Lane Kiffin". Pin the Hall fiasco on Kiffin, clearly Kiffin was the one who wanted him all along.

Big Game Geoff
05-18-2009, 02:37 PM
I wish he would have named the other players who don't care. Piss off, Deangelo...

JRaider17
05-18-2009, 02:47 PM
Note he says "I was pretty close to Lane Kiffin". Pin the Hall fiasco on Kiffin, clearly Kiffin was the one who wanted him all along.

Or he could be saying this so he looks like he would have been find in Oakland if Kiffin would have never got fired...

Big O Dick
05-18-2009, 03:11 PM
Note he says "I was pretty close to Lane Kiffin". Pin the Hall fiasco on Kiffin, clearly Kiffin was the one who wanted him all along.

Sorry man...I remember this old argument. Al is the GM...Al brings in the players. I will never believe that Kiffin saw the need on this team for another DB at the time, and he convinced Al he wanted Hall so bad that Al would break the bank for him. NAW.

David
05-18-2009, 03:20 PM
oh man d-hall i miss u man how can u say these things..u were amazing in man coverage... that bigass contract was worth it...














SIKE MAN
Chris Johnson is doing what you cant and didnt do.
I can give a shit wat d-hall thinks

silver & black
05-18-2009, 03:24 PM
oh man d-hall i miss u man how can u say these things..u were amazing in man coverage... that bigass contract was worth it...














SIKE MAN
Chris Johnson is doing what you cant and didnt do.
I can give a shit wat d-hall thinks
Is it Hall's fault that our GM signed him for a bazillion $$$ to play man coverage, when he is a zone coverage player?

Big Game Geoff
05-18-2009, 04:08 PM
Is it Hall's fault that our GM signed him for a bazillion $$$ to play man coverage, when he is a zone coverage player?


HELL YES IT IS! Al paid him to be a cornerback, ie cover wr's.


First we had Moss apologists, now we have Hall apologists.


These dudes are paid to perform under any circumstance. Not just when they feel comfortable. Fuck that shit...

cheapshotartist
05-18-2009, 04:14 PM
Sorry man...I remember this old argument. Al is the GM...Al brings in the players. I will never believe that Kiffin saw the need on this team for another DB at the time, and he convinced Al he wanted Hall so bad that Al would break the bank for him. NAW.

True. :csa:

Is it Hall's fault that our GM signed him for a bazillion $$$ to play man coverage, when he is a zone coverage player?

I agree If we were paying any attention we would have known that Hall was a cover 2 corner and got burnt often while playing man. Hall was a stiff and we still traded for his azz. You reap what you sow.
:csa:

cheapshotartist
05-18-2009, 04:18 PM
HELL YES IT IS! Al paid him to be a cornerback, ie cover wr's.


First we had Moss apologists, now we have Hall apologists.


These dudes are paid to perform under any circumstance. Not just when they feel comfortable. Fuck that shit...

Hall could not cover himself in a phone booth and we should have known that but we still signed him. I can't blame Hall for that we never should have traded for his azz.
:csa:

Don
05-18-2009, 04:26 PM
The Raiders (Al) made a stupid ass mistake signing this guy. Whether Kiffin lobbied for Hall or not is irrelevant. What IS relevant, is that after the first play where he is 10 yds. off the line of scrimmage and get burnt like skirt steak and nothing gets adjusted by the coach or the player, something is very fucking wrong with that picture. How can a guy be allowed to play softer than Mike Huff's maxipads continuously for an 8 game stretch in a system that dissalows that positioning over 75% of the time??

Fuck you Hall.

sraiderguy
05-18-2009, 04:29 PM
It's the Raider way. :csa:

And we all know this.

silver & black
05-18-2009, 04:51 PM
HELL YES IT IS! Al paid him to be a cornerback, ie cover wr's.


First we had Moss apologists, now we have Hall apologists.


These dudes are paid to perform under any circumstance. Not just when they feel comfortable. Fuck that shit...

Trust me... I'm not an apologist for anyone. Hall is/was a zone cover guy, not a man cover guy. Al knew this... and decided he could be made into something he isn't. On top of that, he paid him a king's ransom. I'm sorry, but the Hall fiasco is Al's fault... not Hall's.

Big Game Geoff
05-18-2009, 05:00 PM
Not only did we overspend on Hall, we also gave away a high draft pick...

JRaider17
05-18-2009, 05:01 PM
Not only did we overspend on Hall, we also gave away a high draft pick...

Yup...half a year player who got burnt for a 2nd a 6th and 70 mil!

Miklo
05-18-2009, 06:00 PM
Hall reminds me of Philip Buchanon when he was here...throwing it at him, it's going to be a touchdown either way. Either he would make the play or the WR would. He just didn't make those plays for us. I think the scheme could have been adjusted to play better to his talents, but then who expects Rob Ryan to think that hard?

Don
05-18-2009, 07:32 PM
Trust me... I'm not an apologist for anyone. Hall is/was a zone cover guy, not a man cover guy. Al knew this... and decided he could be made into something he isn't. On top of that, he paid him a king's ransom. I'm sorry, but the Hall fiasco is Al's fault... not Hall's.

Come on s&b, Hall never even attempted to play man coverage, and the HC never attempted to force him. You can't say that is Al Davis' fault. Signing him in the first place is 100% Al's fault, but it's not like the guy failed miserably playing the position he was paid a king's ransom to play. He played his own game despite what was going on on the field, and you can't negate his responsibility for that.

Raidermaiden
05-18-2009, 07:37 PM
Screw his azz I love Chris Johnson so much better.

raidersforlife
05-18-2009, 07:38 PM
Sorry man...I remember this old argument. Al is the GM...Al brings in the players. I will never believe that Kiffin saw the need on this team for another DB at the time, and he convinced Al he wanted Hall so bad that Al would break the bank for him. NAW.

Remember the whole scholarship thing? That applies often but think about it, this is not the case here. IF that were the case, Hall would still be here. Why did they cut his ass so soon (in comparison to his contract length)? He was never Al's guy. Not only that but weeks later Kiffin was talking to the Redskins and praising Hall.

It's like claiming Bowlen or the Donks GM is responsible for shopping and ultimately trading Cutler instead of McDaniels. Yeah you can say Al is the guy who technically/physically actually did it but the brains and idea behind it was Kiffin.

Big O Dick
05-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Remember the whole scholarship thing? That applies often but think about it, this is not the case here. IF that were the case, Hall would still be here. Why did they cut his ass so soon (in comparison to his contract length)? He was never Al's guy. Not only that but weeks later Kiffin was talking to the Redskins and praising Hall.

It's like claiming Bowlen or the Donks GM is responsible for shopping and ultimately trading Cutler instead of McDaniels. Yeah you can say Al is the guy who technically/physically actually did it but the brains and idea behind it was Kiffin.

Now your argument actually holds water with the scholarship part. I agree on that one. I think Hall sealed his own fate with his play or lack of, and maybe he never embraced uncle Al like a Sam Williams.

All speculation by us both but agreed it was a horrible move either way.

cheapshotartist
05-19-2009, 04:34 AM
Not only did we overspend on Hall, we also gave away a high draft pick...

We really do need a NFL GM. :csa:

Yup...half a year player who got burnt for a 2nd a 6th and 70 mil!

We got played on this deal big time. :csa:

Hall reminds me of Philip Buchanon when he was here...throwing it at him, it's going to be a touchdown either way. Either he would make the play or the WR would. He just didn't make those plays for us. I think the scheme could have been adjusted to play better to his talents, but then who expects Rob Ryan to think that hard?

You make a great point kyh0mpb it was clear that Hall did not fit in our defensive scheme but Ryan kept putting his azz out there on the island and he continued to get burnt.
:csa:

Come on s&b, Hall never even attempted to play man coverage, and the HC never attempted to force him. You can't say that is Al Davis' fault. Signing him in the first place is 100% Al's fault, but it's not like the guy failed miserably playing the position he was paid a king's ransom to play. He played his own game despite what was going on on the field, and you can't negate his responsibility for that.

I put the blame on the shoulders of the defensive coaching staff. They tried to put a square peg in a round hole and it did not work.
:csa:

silver & black
05-19-2009, 06:05 AM
Come on s&b, Hall never even attempted to play man coverage, and the HC never attempted to force him. You can't say that is Al Davis' fault. Signing him in the first place is 100% Al's fault, but it's not like the guy failed miserably playing the position he was paid a king's ransom to play. He played his own game despite what was going on on the field, and you can't negate his responsibility for that.

You're right, and I don't think Hall is blameless either. My point was/is... Al Davis is supposed to know better! I don't understand this philosophy of trying to make players into something they are not. I agree that Hall could/should have tried harder to adapt to the style of play that Al and the Raiders stand by, but ultimately, this is Al's fault, for once again trying to mold players into something they are not. We/Al/the Raiders need to sign players that fit the system (whatever that is these days) instead of trying to force them to be something they are naturally not.

Don
05-19-2009, 06:42 AM
You're right, and I don't think Hall is blameless either. My point was/is... Al Davis is supposed to know better! I don't understand this philosophy of trying to make players into something they are not. I agree that Hall could/should have tried harder to adapt to the style of play that Al and the Raiders stand by, but ultimately, this is Al's fault, for once again trying to mold players into something they are not. We/Al/the Raiders need to sign players that fit the system (whatever that is these days) instead of trying to force them to be something they are naturally not.

Most def. I agree with that.

Big O Dick
05-19-2009, 08:04 AM
Come on s&b, Hall never even attempted to play man coverage, and the HC never attempted to force him. You can't say that is Al Davis' fault. Signing him in the first place is 100% Al's fault, but it's not like the guy failed miserably playing the position he was paid a king's ransom to play. He played his own game despite what was going on on the field, and you can't negate his responsibility for that.

You're right, and I don't think Hall is blameless either. My point was/is... Al Davis is supposed to know better! I don't understand this philosophy of trying to make players into something they are not. I agree that Hall could/should have tried harder to adapt to the style of play that Al and the Raiders stand by, but ultimately, this is Al's fault, for once again trying to mold players into something they are not. We/Al/the Raiders need to sign players that fit the system (whatever that is these days) instead of trying to force them to be something they are naturally not.

Nail meets head....its all on the theory that speed trumps everything. We are soon going to find out the results of Als next speed experiment, DHB.

SHADEE
05-19-2009, 08:33 AM
Fuck meangelo!

Big O Dick
05-19-2009, 08:51 AM
Fuck meangelo!

LOL, yeah fuck him but what he said was still funny...

JRaider17
05-19-2009, 09:13 AM
Hall may have looked stupid on the field, but the dude took 8 mil of our money for that half season performance.

Big O Dick
05-19-2009, 09:18 AM
Hall may have looked stupid on the field, but the dude took 8 mil of our money for that half season performance.

Can we get a GM??? LOL

cheapshotartist
05-19-2009, 09:25 AM
Can we get a GM??? LOL

No :shit:! I'm serious until we get a GM Al will keep drafting and trading for stiffs with speed. This :shit: needs to stop. :csa:

Big Game Geoff
05-19-2009, 09:32 AM
Matt Millen's available...

silver & black
05-19-2009, 09:54 AM
Matt Millen's available...

:roflmao

Big O Dick
05-19-2009, 10:15 AM
Matt Millen's available...

As much as I want to laugh...Im terrifed at the possibility!!!

East Bay King
05-19-2009, 03:55 PM
I wish he would have named the other players who don't care. Piss off, Deangelo...

You could not have said it better. This is just another guy that got put in a defensive scheme that he couldn't handle. You've got to be a man to run the amont of one-on-one the Raiders run. That's why so many don't work out,see Larry Brown. This is a guy who just flat got owned by a guy that nobody had ever heard of, (Broncos WR Eddie Royal). He got his ass handed to him on Monday night and never got over it. That's right just release him if he doesn't want to earn his money. And don't give me that bullshit about Oakland and Al being disfunctinal. Blah, Blah, Blah. Namdi shows up every game and earns his money. Al just missed on his sorry ass. Al drafted or traded for Hayes, Brown, Haines, Namdi, Tatum, Mike Davis and others. So don't tell me he doesn't know talent. I just think he has failed to realize how soft and spoiled today's players are. If they get exposed or have to make anyone better around them, they puss out and want to be traded to New England or somewhere where they can hide and not have to work. Fuck No Show De Angelo!

TAPE
05-19-2009, 04:05 PM
^^^ A Pro Bowl dont mean shit to me...

4 Pro Bowls , only 2 playoff victories..


wow... What a stud. You really think he can drive us deep into the playoffs @ 40? With a suspect defense.

I'd take JR's arm anyday, honestly.

Don
05-19-2009, 04:14 PM
^^^ A Pro Bowl dont mean shit to me...

4 Pro Bowls , only 2 playoff victories..


wow... What a stud. You really think he can drive us deep into the playoffs @ 40? With a suspect defense.

I'd take JR's arm anyday, honestly.

:huh::huh::huh:

LOL!

TAPE
05-19-2009, 04:14 PM
:huh::huh::huh:

LOL!

no homo

East Bay King
05-19-2009, 04:16 PM
^^^ A Pro Bowl dont mean shit to me...

4 Pro Bowls , only 2 playoff victories..


wow... What a stud. You really think he can drive us deep into the playoffs @ 40? With a suspect defense.

I'd take JR's arm anyday, honestly.

More of a stud than anything we've had lately with the record to back it up. JR's arm hasn't gotten us shit yet. Not all his fault, the O-line has to block somebody. However, I'll take a smart QB who already knows how to make plays than someone who has to learn how. I never said anything about deep into the playoffs, fuck I just want to make the playoffs first. Gannon and Plunkett were not young players either. The game has changed signifigantly but, Blanda was in his mid forties. He had heart, something today's players could use.

BigPrimo
05-19-2009, 07:06 PM
Im still waiting for a player to come out and say...

"you know what I didnt get it done, yeah its some stuff that goes on but I nor anyone can control that but i got paid and what i can control is how i play out there on the field and I JUST DIDNT GET IT DONE."

Thats what Hall should have said.

Boom
05-19-2009, 08:14 PM
http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2009/05/18/deangelo-hall-agrees-hes-had-one-charmed-nfl-career/

This is my comment for Hall:sniper:2guns:2guns

LB_RA¹Ð³R
05-20-2009, 04:39 PM
I just can't believe The Redskins gave him a contract like that, After seeing film on him in Oakland...

:roflmao: