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Miklo
04-02-2009, 09:12 PM
I was watching some of the fights from last night's Fight Night and figured I'd get a jump on starting this thread. Just over 2 weeks until Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites!
TheMadEskimo
04-02-2009, 09:53 PM
I'm glad Junie got his a$$ handed to him last night!
The Kampman/Condit fight could have gone either way. I was hoping for a draw...
I think Anderson Silva will handle Lietes no problem in a couple of weeks. The fight I am looking forward to is Shogun vs Liddell, I hope they both come in to the fight healthy and in shape!
We also have Nick Diaz vs Frank Shamrock on Showtime next week, should be a war! It sucks Thompson broke his leg. I wonder who Melendez will be fighting on such short notice?!
el boracho
04-02-2009, 10:46 PM
dont forget to catch Miguel Torres from the WEC on sunday...that dude is sick as hell....
Miklo
04-02-2009, 11:11 PM
Yea Miguel Torres is raw.
I hope Shamrock smashes on Diaz, I hate the Diaz brothers!
el boracho
04-03-2009, 12:40 AM
yeah nate diaz is a cocky piece of shxt...that dude has some sick gracie jj though....
Miklo
04-05-2009, 05:18 PM
Miguel Torres vs Takeya Mizugaki tonight. I don't know much about Mizugaki, but don't need to. Torres is probably gonna win this easy.
el boracho
04-06-2009, 11:10 PM
holy shxt i missed miguel fight on sunday...... didnt anyone catch it???
TruR8r
04-14-2009, 01:01 PM
There's some good fights this upcoming Saturday. I think Silva will try to finish his fight quickly since his last fight drew a lot of negative reaction.
Miklo
04-14-2009, 04:18 PM
There's some good fights this upcoming Saturday. I think Silva will try to finish his fight quickly since his last fight drew a lot of negative reaction.
Yea I agree...this guy has no chance unless he gets lucky and catches Silva in something. I watched a thing on Spike last night about how Silva was so pissed at himself, etc. and went into the weight room with a vengeance, so he should come out looking for blood. it's gonna be a good one though.
el boracho
04-14-2009, 08:19 PM
Yea I agree...this guy has no chance unless he gets lucky and catches Silva in something. I watched a thing on Spike last night about how Silva was so pissed at himself, etc. and went into the weight room with a vengeance, so he should come out looking for blood. it's gonna be a good one though.
dude is really fun to watch when hes in the cage....I can see him coming out real quick with his strikes...this is going to interesting to see after his last showing...
Miklo
04-17-2009, 01:38 PM
Agreed. I'm also pretty excited to see Chuck vs. Shogun. Hopefully Chuck can knock the dust off, he's due!
sraiderguy
04-17-2009, 01:57 PM
Agreed. I'm also pretty excited to see Chuck vs. Shogun. Hopefully Chuck can knock the dust off, he's due!
Shogun going to kill chuck.
TheMadEskimo
04-17-2009, 02:36 PM
Shogun going to kill chuck.
yup
TruR8r
05-25-2009, 03:29 PM
I heard rampage will be Machida's next opponent.
Miklo
05-25-2009, 04:21 PM
^Yup it's true...Rampage will be the next victim. I'm a Rampage fan and think he has more of a shot than Rashad did, but he still doesn't have much of a chance.
Also, Fedor is set to fight Josh Barnett in August.
TruR8r
05-25-2009, 04:24 PM
If Rampage can't beat him and if Silva beats Griffin I would love to see Machida vs. Silva BUT... I hear they're good friends and will not fight each other. BS!!! Make that happen.
Miklo
05-25-2009, 04:27 PM
Yup Machida and Silva both fight for Black House...they're good friends and Silva said awhile back he didn't want to move permanently up to 205 because that was Machida's weight class to dominate.
TruR8r
05-25-2009, 04:29 PM
Silva dominates the 185 pound division and if Machida keeps on dominating the 205 they should seriously consider it. I'm sure the money will be good.
Big O Dick
05-25-2009, 05:24 PM
I heard rampage will be Machida's next opponent.
I think Rampage is gonna be Machidas next VICTIM...too explosive, too elusive, and too skilled.
TruR8r
05-25-2009, 09:39 PM
I think Rampage is gonna be Machidas next VICTIM...too explosive, too elusive, and too skilled.
I agree with this, Machida is on top of his game right now.
el boracho
05-26-2009, 09:34 PM
Silva dominates the 185 pound division and if Machida keeps on dominating the 205 they should seriously consider it. I'm sure the money will be good.
This could either be one of the best fights or worst fights in Ufc history...There both counter fighters ....They get going when their opponent comes after them just like Chuck Liddell....They might just sit there and dance around in the middle of the cage the whole fight....
TruR8r
05-28-2009, 07:23 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AupyBasDSHAMGsYXwgvo94Q9Eo14?slug=ki-tuften052809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Stupidity on Rampage's part. If you get a title shot you better take it. He knows Machida would whoop his ass.
Big O Dick
05-28-2009, 07:28 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AupyBasDSHAMGsYXwgvo94Q9Eo14?slug=ki-tuften052809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Stupidity on Rampage's part. If you get a title shot you better take it. He knows Machida would whoop his ass.
He wasnt a good coach last time...hes just trying to get everyone to buy into his "black on black crime" quote.
Machida would beat his ass.
TruR8r
05-28-2009, 07:31 PM
He wasnt a good coach last time...hes just trying to get everyone to buy into his "black on black crime" quote.
Machida would beat his ass.
Yea that shit he busted after his fight was stupid. I wonder who Dana White will put in against Machida.
el boracho
05-28-2009, 07:32 PM
Yea that shit he busted after his fight was stupid. I wonder who Dana White will put in against Machida.
Machida is going to hold that belt for awhile...who could challenge it??
Big O Dick
05-28-2009, 07:33 PM
Yea that shit he busted after his fight was stupid. I wonder who Dana White will put in against Machida.
Machida is a scary match up for anyone so he might have to fight slouches for a couple fights.
TruR8r
05-28-2009, 07:34 PM
Machida is going to hold that belt for awhile...who could challenge it??
I agree and I think Rua will get the shot even though i don't think he deserves it yet.
el boracho
05-28-2009, 07:39 PM
I agree and I think Rua will get the shot even though i don't think he deserves it yet.
yeah rua is done....this might sound a little crazy but i think a straight forward style fighter like Matt hamill or keith jardine would give machida a good fight...i dont know about taking his belt but i would like to see one of those two go at it with him...
Big O Dick
05-28-2009, 07:40 PM
I bet he fights Bisbing...after the show and if he beats Hendo. Dana loves Bisbing.
Big O Dick
05-28-2009, 07:41 PM
Then again, theres always the axe murderer. He'll fight anyone...lol
el boracho
05-28-2009, 07:42 PM
I bet he fights Bisbing...after the show and if he beats Hendo. Dana loves Bisbing.
fxck bisping...hes a piece of shxt....i hope dan hendo fxcks him up....
TruR8r
05-28-2009, 07:43 PM
Save him and let him fight Anderson Silva. :D
Big O Dick
05-28-2009, 07:43 PM
fxck bisping...hes a piece of shxt....i hope dan hendo fxcks him up....
Me too...he talks a lot of shit. This season of TUF has made me dislike that dude a lot more.
el boracho
05-28-2009, 07:46 PM
Me too...he talks a lot of shit. This season of TUF has made me dislike that dude a lot more.
yeah that shxt he did to marques johnson was ridiculous....What really gets me mad about that guy is when Hamil beat his xss and he couldnt admit it....Hamil destroyed him and he said he won...fxck him...
Miklo
05-28-2009, 09:36 PM
Me too...he talks a lot of shit. This season of TUF has made me dislike that dude a lot more.
Yea I have grown to dislike Bisping a lot since TUF started. He's a bitch...all he ever does is complain.
Miklo
06-10-2009, 04:54 PM
Saturday, UFC 99. I'm looking forward to Wanderlei vs Rich Franklin. It'll be interesting, since Anderson Silva helped Rich prepare for Wanderlei, since they used to be training partners. I don't really understand the bad blood between those two, but it should make for a very interesting fight. I'm pulling for Wanderlei, he needs a win badly!
Also excited to see Cain Velazquez vs Cheick Kongo. Velazquez has some skills, but I really like Kongo. Should be a battle.
The return of Cro Cop! That should be cool too. Also the return of Caol Uno, plus fights by Marcus Davis and Mike Swick. Should be a solid card.
If any undercard fights are shown, I hope it's Paul Taylor's. He wins Fight of the Night damn near every time he steps in the Octagon.
Tooz72
06-10-2009, 05:03 PM
Distant Distant family relation to Cain......hope he does well. Wrestling skills are very good. See if he can deal with Kongo's experience.....
Miklo
06-10-2009, 05:11 PM
Yea he's a dangerous striker too. He trains at AKA. If I wasn't going to school in San Diego, I'd seriously consider spending my entire life there.
I wish Kongo was light heavy... he would beat Machida
Tooz72
06-12-2009, 10:04 AM
Should be some good fights. See what if anything Wanderlei has left after some early exits last 2 fights.....
TruR8r
06-12-2009, 04:10 PM
Silva is going to get dropped by Franklin.
TheMadEskimo
06-12-2009, 11:57 PM
I wish Kongo was light heavy... he would beat Machida
You can say that about a lot of Heavyweights. And do you think a 25 lb cut would leave Kongo with any energy?
Have you ever seen Machida on the ground? He has BJ Penn style Jiu Jitsu, Kongo has 0 ground game, he would get arm barred quick style!
TheMadEskimo
06-13-2009, 12:05 AM
Saturday, UFC 99. I'm looking forward to Wanderlei vs Rich Franklin. It'll be interesting, since Anderson Silva helped Rich prepare for Wanderlei, since they used to be training partners. I don't really understand the bad blood between those two, but it should make for a very interesting fight. I'm pulling for Wanderlei, he needs a win badly!
Also excited to see Cain Velazquez vs Cheick Kongo. Velazquez has some skills, but I really like Kongo. Should be a battle.
The return of Cro Cop! That should be cool too. Also the return of Caol Uno, plus fights by Marcus Davis and Mike Swick. Should be a solid card.
If any undercard fights are shown, I hope it's Paul Taylor's. He wins Fight of the Night damn near every time he steps in the Octagon.
I'll take Wanderlei Silva also. I just hope he keeps his hands up!
I'll take Cain by aggression and he will whoop Kongos a$$.
CroCop better not have a problem with Al-Turk or he is done!
Marcus Davis has a fight on his hands with Hardy, I will take Hardy by KO.
Swick and Saunders should be agood match up, I will take Swick because of experience.
I agree on Paul Taylor, his fight with Lytle was a classic.
TruR8r
06-13-2009, 03:09 PM
Great fight between Silva and Fanklin. :beer:
TruR8r
06-13-2009, 03:10 PM
I wish Kongo was light heavy... he would beat Machida
He couldn't even beat Velasquez. The fucker is huge and has won some fights but there's a reason he hasn't been given a title shot.
TheMadEskimo
06-13-2009, 03:28 PM
Fights were ok, Wanderlei needs a whole new game plan.
Why/How is Al-Turk in the UFC?
Kongo needs to listen to his corner. Cain is young and a dominant wrestler, definitely needs to work on his submissions. He should have subbed Kongo in the first round.
They didn't show either of the most exciting fighters, Terry Ettim and Paul Taylor.
Swick looked good against a bigger Saunders.
Tooz72
06-13-2009, 08:10 PM
Cuzzo Cain.....:roc:
el boracho
06-18-2009, 10:38 PM
Cain is fun to watch....He seems so undersized when he fights....
el boracho
06-21-2009, 10:19 PM
did anyone see that Guida Diego fight??? Guida won that one hands down....That shxt was ridiculous....Clay had the 2nd and 3rd rounds....
Big O Dick
06-21-2009, 10:29 PM
did anyone see that Guida Diego fight??? Guida won that one hands down....That shxt was ridiculous....Clay had the 2nd and 3rd rounds....
Please tell me you aren't serious bro.
Guida got his ass kicked 10-8 round one...he may have been on top dry humping Diego most of the rest of the rounds but he got punished while on top...BRUTALLY...hence the pools of blood all over the ring and on Diego.
Dry humping someone for 5 minutes doesnt mean you win the round unless your Matt Hughes.
Tooz72
06-21-2009, 11:03 PM
The top of Guidas head was busted open badly....those elbows by Sanchez from the bottom were brutal. Too much freakin blood, shit looked like a health hazard for Sanchez....lmao :mean:
Miklo
06-26-2009, 03:55 AM
I honestly had that shit a draw. 10-8 Sanchez, 10-9 Guida, 10-9 Guida. He wasn't just dry humping, he was staying busy throwing strikes from Sanchez's guard. What I think it came down to was those elbows from the bottom, even though I still think Guida won that round. The dude is just exciting to watch though, and I hate Sanchez with all my heart but that fucker is good. He has improved his striking game ridiculously.
TruR8r
06-30-2009, 10:11 AM
That card next week is sick. I can't wait to watch these fights.
Big O Dick
06-30-2009, 10:29 AM
That card next week is sick. I can't wait to watch these fights.
Me too. The St. Pierre/Alves is gonna rock! Plus I hope Hendo beats Bisbing...after this last TUF, I dont like Bisbing man!
Big Game Geoff
06-30-2009, 10:55 AM
Me too. The St. Pierre/Alves is gonna rock! Plus I hope Hendo beats Bisbing...after this last TUF, I dont like Bisbing man!
PPV?..
Miklo
06-30-2009, 08:13 PM
No one likes Bisping anymore! Dude came off as a straight dickhead!
I'm not that big a fan of Mir, so I'm hoping Brock puts the pummeling on him this time and finishes it.
St. Pierre vs Alves is gonna be a battle, man. I can't wait to see that one. I like St. Pierre a lot, but I just want to see a hell of a fight.
Man, I am pumped for this shit!
Big O Dick
06-30-2009, 08:58 PM
No one likes Bisping anymore! Dude came off as a straight dickhead!
I'm not that big a fan of Mir, so I'm hoping Brock puts the pummeling on him this time and finishes it.
St. Pierre vs Alves is gonna be a battle, man. I can't wait to see that one. I like St. Pierre a lot, but I just want to see a hell of a fight.
Man, I am pumped for this shit!
Me too...I wanna fight someone right now thinking about it! LOL
Tooz72
07-10-2009, 02:20 PM
Cant wait for this weekend! St Pierre v Alves!
Miklo
07-12-2009, 01:20 AM
Highlight of the night...Hendo vs. Bisping. What a fuckin right hand, one of the best KO's I've seen in a long time.
Mir is such a bitch too, I love how he tried to make it seem like he was the victim after the fight, trying to play the nice guy and shit when he was the one who started all the shit talking in the first place. Get fuckin' owned.
Big O Dick
07-12-2009, 08:18 AM
Good fights! GSP is truly one of the best. I give Alves props for going 5.
Bisbing getting laid out was DIRTY!!!
TruR8r
07-14-2009, 07:28 AM
Seeing Bisping get knocked the fuck out was beautiful. GSP vs. Anderson Silva should be considered.
Big O Dick
07-14-2009, 08:45 AM
Seeing Bisping get knocked the fuck out was beautiful. GSP vs. Anderson Silva should be considered.
x2....Ive been saying that. After the fight, GSP was saying that hes not that big and wouldnt feel comfortable at that weight cuz he says he walks around at 185. I think thats BS.
x2....Ive been saying that. After the fight, GSP was saying that hes not that big and wouldnt feel comfortable at that weight cuz he says he walks around at 185. I think thats BS.
Wait, hold up! He said is a natural 185 and would need time to gain some weight. What's wrong with that? I don't smell any poop. :?
Big O Dick
07-14-2009, 10:14 AM
Wait, hold up! He said is a natural 185 and would need time to gain some weight. What's wrong with that? I don't smell any poop. :?
He doesnt want to have to gain any weight to hurt his game. I smell BS because he is NOT a natural 185. Ive seen him here in town and hes more like 195. I think hes just making excuses not to fight Spider.
He doesnt want to have to gain any weight to hurt his game. I smell BS because he is NOT a natural 185. Ive seen him here in town and hes more like 195. I think hes just making excuses not to fight Spider.
I don't buy it (not an attack on you). I think GSP wants to fight the best fighters out there. I doubt he would duck Anderson. Silva is a really good fighter but he is overrated. He is not undefeatable (note four losses in Pride)
Seriously.....
I would love to see GSP come up to 205 and get knocked the fuck out by Silva,Machida or Rampage...
Or Even Anderson go back down to 185 and fucking own him.
Seriously.....
I would love to see GSP come up to 205 and get knocked the fuck out by Silva,Machida or Rampage...
Or Even Anderson go back down to 185 and fucking own him.
GSP coming up TWO weight classes? No chance. I doubt Machida or Rampage can even drop to 185 to meet him.
I think GSP and Silva will happen eventually. GSP has cleaned up the 170 pound class (and BJ Penn) and Silva has cleaned out the 185 class.
GSP coming up TWO weight classes? No chance. I doubt Machida or Rampage can even drop to 185 to meet him.
I think GSP and Silva will happen eventually. GSP has cleaned up the 170 pound class (and BJ Penn) and Silva has cleaned out the 185 class.
I know Machida and Rampage are a long shot.. But Anderson could very much drop to 185 and clean the floor with GSP
TruR8r
07-14-2009, 12:06 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dw-brockcarwin071309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
“We’ll end up getting that deal done and then we’ll do Brock vs. Fedor and we’ll do a huge fight,” White said.
Fedor >>>>> Lesnar
Get it done!
TruR8r
07-14-2009, 12:21 PM
White pays his fighters crap. For all the money he makes he should be paying them a little more.
GenRaider
07-14-2009, 12:37 PM
White pays his fighters crap. For all the money he makes he should be paying them a little more.
X2... Like a lot of promoters/owners, he probably believes fighters are replaceable.
White pays his fighters crap. For all the money he makes he should be paying them a little more.
No doubt. I heard Brock made millions of dollars and Mir didn't even crack 100k. I heard he only earned 45k.
Miklo
07-14-2009, 12:56 PM
No doubt. I heard Brock made millions of dollars and Mir didn't even crack 100k. I heard he only earned 45k.
I don't believe that at all. Dana White doesn't pay his fighters outlandishly, but he still takes good care of them. They aren't gonna break any records, but I really doubt Mir only got $45k. I could be wrong though, who knows I guess. :huh:
Fedor vs Brock would be a solid matchup. I think it would be a good fight. Fedor, while he is definitely the better fighter, has fought 2 very washed up fighters in Tim Sylvia and Andre Arlovski in his last 2 fights. I'm not impressed. Join the UFC already and prove you're the best!
Miklo
07-14-2009, 12:57 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dw-brockcarwin071309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Carwin is no joke either. Never had an opponent make it out of the first round I'm pretty sure. And he has 2 size bigger mitts than Lesnar, which is freakish. I think he'll beat Cain Velazquez with some ease.
TruR8r
07-14-2009, 12:59 PM
The full payouts for the event included:
Jon Fitch: $90,000 (includes $45,000 win bonus)
def. Paulo Thiago: $8,000
Brock Lesnar: $400,000 (no win bonus)
def. Frank Mir: $45,000
Georges St-Pierre: $400,000 ($200,000 win bonus)
def. Thiago Alves: $60,000
Dan Henderson: $250,00 ($150,000 win bonus)
def. Michael Bisping: $150,000
Yoshihiro Akiyama: $60,000 ($20,000 win bonus)
def. Alan Belcher: $19,000
Mark Coleman: $100,000 ($50,000 win bonus)
def. Stephan Bonnar: $25,000
Jim Miller: $22,000 ($11,000 win bonus)
def. Mac Danzig: $20,000
Jon Jones: $18,000 ($9000 win bonus)
def. Jake O'Brien: $13,000
Dong Hyun Kim: $58,000 ($29,000 win bonus)
def. T.J. Grant: $5,000
Tom Lawlor: $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus)
def. C.B. Dollway: $14,000
Shannon Gugerty: $10,000 ($5,000 win bonus)
def. Matt Grice: $7,000
Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays.
For example, as discussed above, the figures above do not include the UFC's traditional "fight night" bonuses. The UFC awarded $100,000 each to Akiyama and Belcher (Fight of the Night), Henderson (KO of the Night) and Lawlor (Submission of the Night).
In other words, the above salary figures are simply base salaries reported to the commission and do not reflect entire compensation packages for the event.
TruR8r
07-14-2009, 01:01 PM
I don't believe that at all. Dana White doesn't pay his fighters outlandishly, but he still takes good care of them. They aren't gonna break any records, but I really doubt Mir only got $45k. I could be wrong though, who knows I guess. :huh:
Fedor vs Brock would be a solid matchup. I think it would be a good fight. Fedor, while he is definitely the better fighter, has fought 2 very washed up fighters in Tim Sylvia and Andre Arlovski in his last 2 fights. I'm not impressed. Join the UFC already and prove you're the best!
Yea he only got 45k and GSP was the one with the big pay day at the end of the night, a whopping 600k for a superstar in a billion dollar industry.
I can't believe Coleman made more than Mir. That is outlandish. Coleman wasn't even on the main card!
Miklo
07-14-2009, 01:21 PM
Wow ok my fault you guys are right...45k is horrible and $600k for GSP is pretty weak too. I take that back. It makes sense for there to be a difference between a UFC payday and a Boxing payday, since the UFC has to pay 20 or so fighters for each event, and they have 12 events per year, but those are still pretty weak numbers.
Miklo
07-14-2009, 01:21 PM
I can't believe Coleman made more than Mir. That is outlandish. Coleman wasn't even on the main card!
Yea and Jon Fitch made the same as Mir on the undercard, not counting his win bonus.
Wow ok my fault you guys are right...45k is horrible and $600k for GSP is pretty weak too. I take that back. It makes sense for there to be a difference between a UFC payday and a Boxing payday, since the UFC has to pay 20 or so fighters for each event, and they have 12 events per year, but those are still pretty weak numbers.
That is why Randy walked away from UFC - but is back now - and started Affliction. Dana does not pay the fighters a fair share. Mir is a pretty successful fighter... lets say he fights 3-4 times a year and count the Lesnar fight as one. Of course, he will make a better pay day against an opponent like Lesnar who made a ridiculous $3 million or 66.6 times more than Mir. I'll throw an even number, such as 30k out there. That puts Mir between $100-$135k for a year's worth of fighting. And you wonder why fighters paste their ass, chest, ring flags, and chest hairs with ads.
Big O Dick
07-14-2009, 02:13 PM
Fedor >>>>> Lesnar
Get it done!
That would be SICK!
everybody is just keeping the seat warm until Mo Lawal arrives!!!
sraiderguy
07-17-2009, 12:34 PM
I like Lesnar but to think he could handle or compete against Fedor is crazy. Mir is a nobody and it is laughable that beating Mir is a gauge of someone's talent. Lesnar doeas have no one to fight though in UFC.
I like Lesnar but to think he could handle or compete against Fedor is crazy. Mir is a nobody and it is laughable that beating Mir is a gauge of someone's talent. Lesnar doeas have no one to fight though in UFC.
I agree. The HW division in the UFC is pretty weak. Mir is a good fighter but he is definitely not elite.
Big O Dick
07-17-2009, 01:30 PM
I like Lesnar but to think he could handle or compete against Fedor is crazy. Mir is a nobody and it is laughable that beating Mir is a gauge of someone's talent. Lesnar doeas have no one to fight though in UFC.
Agree. Maybe on the new TUF series a heavyweight will emerge and actually be good and respect the game.
If Kimbo wasnt so old or late getting in the game Id like to see that fight.
sraiderguy
07-17-2009, 03:29 PM
Agree. Maybe on the new TUF series a heavyweight will emerge and actually be good and respect the game.
If Kimbo wasnt so old or late getting in the game Id like to see that fight.
I think we will get Lesnar - Slice. I would like to see Barnett or Arlovski vs. Lesnar but instead we get Barnett - Fedor which could be good fight.
sraiderguy
07-17-2009, 03:33 PM
These would be cool to go see if you in the bay. Gina so damn sexy, plus I really like alistair overeem.
ROCKSTAR ENERGY DRINK AND STRIKEFORCE PRESENT “CARANO VS. CYBORG”
HP Pavilion at San Jose
Saturday, August 15, 2009 – 7:30 PM
Prelims at 5:30 PM (All times Pacific)
LIVE ON SHOWTIME SPORTS!
MAIN CARD (BEGINNING AT 7:30PM):
Gina “Conviction” Carano (7-0) vs. Cris “Cyborg” (7-1) – 145lb Female Championship Bout
Josh “The Punk” Thomson (16-2) vs. Gilbert “El Nino” Melendez (15-2) – Lightweight Championship Bout
Alistair "Demolition Man" Overeem (29-11) vs. Fabricio Werdum (11-4-1) - Heavyweight Championship Bout
Nick "Bad boy" Diaz (20-7) vs. Joe "Diesel" Riggs (30-10) - Welterweight Championship Bout
Miklo
07-20-2009, 03:50 AM
^Also the Raiders did some sort of deal where you can get tix for the home game vs. the Broncos as well as tix for Strikeforce. If I was gonna be in the bay and wasn't a ticket scalper by trade, I'd spring for that.
These would be cool to go see if you in the bay. Gina so damn sexy, plus I really like alistair overeem.
ROCKSTAR ENERGY DRINK AND STRIKEFORCE PRESENT “CARANO VS. CYBORG”
HP Pavilion at San Jose
Saturday, August 15, 2009 – 7:30 PM
Prelims at 5:30 PM (All times Pacific)
LIVE ON SHOWTIME SPORTS!
MAIN CARD (BEGINNING AT 7:30PM):
Gina “Conviction” Carano (7-0) vs. Cris “Cyborg” (7-1) – 145lb Female Championship Bout
Josh “The Punk” Thomson (16-2) vs. Gilbert “El Nino” Melendez (15-2) – Lightweight Championship Bout
Alistair "Demolition Man" Overeem (29-11) vs. Fabricio Werdum (11-4-1) - Heavyweight Championship Bout
Nick "Bad boy" Diaz (20-7) vs. Joe "Diesel" Riggs (30-10) - Welterweight Championship Bout
I'm a big Nick Diaz fan and Overeem is fun to watch. I would not watch a woman's fight though.
Miklo
07-20-2009, 02:06 PM
I'm a big Nick Diaz fan and Overeem is fun to watch. I would not watch a woman's fight though.
You oughta start, that is gonna be a hell of a fight, women or not. Gina Carano is not only fine but she's a hell of a fighter, and Cyborg is probably a man, so that makes it fair. They are competitors, bro, you should check it out.
sraiderguy
07-20-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm a big Nick Diaz fan and Overeem is fun to watch. I would not watch a woman's fight though.
Carano is a fine woman and a good fighter so it is pretty amazing to me to see a good looking lady with fight skills. If you are to see a female fight this would be the one to see.
el boracho
07-20-2009, 04:38 PM
that pretty face of caranos is going to get smashed by cyborg....cant wait for this fight...
Big O Dick
07-20-2009, 05:31 PM
that pretty face of caranos is going to get smashed by cyborg....cant wait for this fight...
LOL! Id still bone her.
sraiderguy
07-20-2009, 06:36 PM
that pretty face of caranos is going to get smashed by cyborg....cant wait for this fight...
After Cyborg failed to dominate , the 20 pound or so smaller Hitomo Akono, and taking it to the 3rd round. I am not really impressed with Cyborg, but we will see.
el boracho
07-22-2009, 08:22 PM
LOL! Id still bone her.
who wouldnt hah...
Miklo
07-22-2009, 11:29 PM
Josh Barnett tested positive for steroids, so he's out.
Rumor has it Affliction is talking with Bobby Lashley, Vitor Belfort, and Brett Rogers.
I went on Vitor Belfort's wikipedia and it has him scheduled to fight Fedor on August 1st, but I haven't seen anything else that can confirm that. Anyone heard anything?
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08-06-2009, 02:41 AM
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Miklo
08-07-2009, 02:34 PM
UFC 101 tomorrow. I hope BJ whoops Kenny Florian's ass, can't stand that douche bag.
Also excited to finally see Anderson Silva get someone who is actually gonna fight back. Should be a good fight.
Big O Dick
08-07-2009, 02:52 PM
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That dude should never fight ever again....ever. EVER.
Big O Dick
08-07-2009, 02:54 PM
UFC 101 tomorrow. I hope BJ whoops Kenny Florian's ass, can't stand that douche bag.
Also excited to finally see Anderson Silva get someone who is actually gonna fight back. Should be a good fight.
I actually think Forrest is gonna be game! Hes fought some tough dudes, he can win this fight. Silva is just an awkward fighter who makes people confused and look bad...Should be a good one!
BJ over Florian...if theres any different outcome Ill be extremely shocked.
Florian is in over his head IMO. I'm still debating if I want to order this card.
Miklo
08-08-2009, 10:13 PM
Anderson Silva with one of the most embarrassing KO's I've ever seen. Forrest is supposed to be one of the toughest, most difficult-to-finish guys in the UFC, and he goes down and calls it after that shot? I'm curious to see what he has to say, maybe the first 2 knockdowns jacked him up.
BJ with an extremely dominant performance. Good to see the old BJ Penn again, it was a fun fight to watch.
Sonny Cheeba
08-09-2009, 08:53 AM
Last night was a pretty weak event. Griffin must have been drunk as hell or did a shitload of opium before that fight, Silva could have finished it in 10 seconds if he wanted to.
Big O Dick
08-09-2009, 05:31 PM
Last night was a pretty weak event. Griffin must have been drunk as hell or did a shitload of opium before that fight, Silva could have finished it in 10 seconds if he wanted to.
Lol..if I could get a refund I would. That was wack. BJ is 155. He has no biz at 170. Florian had no chance last night. He got schooled.
Looking forward to BJ and Diego. That will be a better fight.
Sonny Cheeba
08-10-2009, 01:13 PM
Lol..if I could get a refund I would. That was wack. BJ is 155. He has no biz at 170. Florian had no chance last night. He got schooled.
Looking forward to BJ and Diego. That will be a better fight.
Well, that's the thing about MMA fights and boxing too (back when it was relevant).
These events are so ridiculously over-hyped, and when the fights suck, it leaves you pissed and feeling ripped off. I could have watched free youtube clips of random people getting KO'ed that would have been more entertaining than that joke of a fight between Anderson and Forrest.
sraiderguy
08-10-2009, 02:02 PM
UFC needs to have at least 2 decent matchups in lineup to get my money. This one was weak from the get and I am not a big fan of Penn.
Big O Dick
08-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Well, that's the thing about MMA fights and boxing too (back when it was relevant).
These events are so ridiculously over-hyped, and when the fights suck, it leaves you pissed and feeling ripped off. I could have watched free youtube clips of random people getting KO'ed that would have been more entertaining than that joke of a fight between Anderson and Forrest.
And that my friend is exactly what Im talkin about...I swear, that fight was so retarded, I even told my homie, did Don King start getting involved with UFC??? WTF just happened??? That was trash....but MMA is still better than boxing any day. Boxing is super boring and too expensive to watch ONE fight.
sraiderguy
08-10-2009, 03:23 PM
And that my friend is exactly what Im talkin about...I swear, that fight was so retarded, I even told my homie, did Don King start getting involved with UFC??? WTF just happened??? That was trash....but MMA is still better than boxing any day. Boxing is super boring and too expensive to watch ONE fight.
Come on you are not Pumped for Roy Jones Jr. vs. Jeff Lacy?:fiesta:
Big O Dick
08-10-2009, 03:40 PM
Come on you are not Pumped for Roy Jones Jr. vs. Jeff Lacy?:fiesta:
:roflmao Did you see they re-named Roy Jones Jr. "Captain Hook" to promote it?? Fuckin ridiculous man...he even wore a stupid ass costume at the press conf. Oh what the almighty dollar can buy these days....:thumbsdown:
sraiderguy
08-10-2009, 03:46 PM
:roflmao Did you see they re-named Roy Jones Jr. "Captain Hook" to promote it?? Fuckin ridiculous man...he even wore a stupid ass costume at the press conf. Oh what the almighty dollar can buy these days....:thumbsdown:
Sad, Roy in his prime was my favorite fighter now it is Juan Manuel Marquez and Paul Williams.
Sonny Cheeba
08-10-2009, 07:09 PM
And that my friend is exactly what Im talkin about...I swear, that fight was so retarded, I even told my homie, did Don King start getting involved with UFC??? WTF just happened??? That was trash....but MMA is still better than boxing any day. Boxing is super boring and too expensive to watch ONE fight.
Yeah no doubt. And why, because of starpower. Guys like St. Pierre, Silva, BJ, Brock etc. are big names and sell tickets. Who exactly does boxing have now? Shit Floyd would probably still be the biggest draw and he hasn't fought for 2 years. The heavyweight division is a joke.
I still enjoy boxing but it's just not the same. Back in the 90's and the early part of this decade there were still some amazing fights, but it just doesn't have the same marketability anymore, UFC is the definitley the kingpin in the fighting genre now.
BigPrimo
08-11-2009, 09:25 PM
This is my cousin Jake Arroyo, this is his first amateur MMA fight in Reno. Im going to his second one on the 22nd. He's the one in the white trunks, the dude in red is a former Marine.
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Bullshit Tracker
08-11-2009, 09:46 PM
This is my cousin Jake Arroyo, this is his first amateur MMA fight in Reno. Im going to his second one on the 22nd. He's the one in the white trunks, the dude in red is a former Marine.
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Did he have blood on his back?
BigPrimo
08-11-2009, 11:45 PM
Did he have blood on his back?
yeah he broke dudes nose with that first right hand punch!
Tooz72
08-14-2009, 12:07 PM
Cant lie I'll be watching Carano and Cyborg get down this weekend on Showtime.........them beezys can fight. Wanna see Carano land a couple kicks n knees to Cyborgs dome.....
Big Game Geoff
08-14-2009, 03:15 PM
yeah he broke dudes nose with that first right hand punch!
Your cousin has some hops bro. He looks lightning quick, too. Bright future!..
LB_RA¹Ð³R
08-14-2009, 08:38 PM
WTF is up with this shit!?
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sraiderguy
08-16-2009, 09:43 AM
Cyborg destroyed Gina last night. I actually felt bad for Gina.
LB_RA¹Ð³R
08-16-2009, 01:15 PM
^ Same here, How about Babalu getting fkked up haha Damn!
Tooz72
08-16-2009, 01:20 PM
Yeah those 1st couple fights were crap last night.....cant believe Babalu actually held a belt......
I read that the Diaz/Riggs did not happen. Anyone know why?
Tooz72
08-16-2009, 04:18 PM
per espn article....
Originally scheduled to face off against Joe Riggs on Saturday, Diaz first had his opponent switched to Jay Hieron and then to no one at all -- he failed to appear for a scheduled drug test and was bumped from the proceedings. He won't get his show money, won't get his win money and won't get his sponsorship money.
While neither Diaz nor his camp has explained to the media why he missed the drug test, Diaz has admitted to marijuana use in the past. Both Diaz and trainer Cesar Gracie are fond of waxing on the evils of the anti-marijuana squad, which is their privilege.
What the fuck? There is no need to test for weed. Performance enhancing drugs, sure but a fighter smoking weed does not affect the sport.
Big O Dick
08-17-2009, 11:47 AM
Props to Carano for hanging that long with a man.
Nemesys
08-17-2009, 02:38 PM
Props to Carano for hanging that long with a man.
For real. I swear Cyborg is a tranny. I don't understand why Carano just stood up after she had Cyborg in the mount. She should've just started dropping elbows and fists on his/her face.
Someone should check on Babalu though, he might still be laying on the canvas staring at all the pretty lights. :chair:
Tooz72
08-17-2009, 02:52 PM
Yeah surpirsed Carano didnt use kicks or knees at all.....theyve worked well for her in the past. Seriously man she looked like a girl vs a beast.
LB_RA¹Ð³R
08-18-2009, 10:44 PM
UFC 102 is next Week! I want to see Jardine straight out drop Silva
el boracho
08-21-2009, 11:26 AM
UFC 102 is next Week! I want to see Jardine straight out drop Silva
thats going to be a good fight...Silva always throwsdown and jardine does too....
Carwin v. Lesnar UFC 106
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/lesnar-carwin-to-headline-ufc-106-19217
Anderson Silva to fight as a heavyweight?
http://www.examiner.com/x-20066-Pittsburgh-MMA-Examiner~y2009m8d21-Anderson-Silva-planning-debut-as-heavyweight
Miklo
08-21-2009, 05:03 PM
Anderson Silva to fight as a heavyweight?
http://www.examiner.com/x-20066-Pittsburgh-MMA-Examiner~y2009m8d21-Anderson-Silva-planning-debut-as-heavyweight
Interesting thought. How about seeing Silva vs Fedor? I think a technical striker like Silva could pick Fedor apart, personally, but then Fedor is considerably larger so that would more than make up for it. Still would be interesting to see, though.
el boracho
08-21-2009, 09:09 PM
silva already said he wont go for the light heavyweight title due to the close relationship he has with machida...If he goes heavyweight he better not clinch or he will get smashed....dudes in the heavies are wayyy to big for his xss...
Big O Dick
08-22-2009, 02:09 PM
Interesting thought. How about seeing Silva vs Fedor? I think a technical striker like Silva could pick Fedor apart, personally, but then Fedor is considerably larger so that would more than make up for it. Still would be interesting to see, though.
Yup. Andre Orlovski was winning vs Fedor before he got too cute with that superman punch got his ass knocked out. Fedor always finds ways to win though...would be a good fight!
Miklo
08-22-2009, 02:28 PM
Yup. Andre Orlovski was winning vs Fedor before he got too cute with that superman punch got his ass knocked out. Fedor always finds ways to win though...would be a good fight!
Truthfully, I think Arlovski had no business being in that fight. He is really overrated now, his game has decreased a lot. He has really good boxing skills, but he just isn't what he used to be. He used to be good, but he has one of the worst chins I have ever seen - if you land a flush shot, regardless of strength, Arlovski is going down. Brett Rogers destroyed him in less than 20 seconds.
Same with Tim Sylvia. I haven't been impressed with Fedor's last couple fights. They are pitting him against has-been's. I'd like to see him put up against a legitimate heavyweight contender, although I doubt that happens since he didn't sign with the UFC. A bitch move on his part, IMO.
The UFC, outside of Brock, has a pretty weak HW class too. I'd love to see Mir v. Silva though. Although ild rather see a rematch of Henderson v. Silva at 205.
Miklo
08-22-2009, 03:19 PM
The mid-level Heavyweights in the UFC are still better than the likes of Arlovski, Sylvia, etc IMO. I'd rather see Brock, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, Noguiera, Velazquez, hell even Cro Cop over Arlovski or Sylvia against Fedor.
What about the UFC pitting UFC 103 up against Money Mayweather on Sept. 19? Not a smart move, although boxing cards are usually a joke, odds are they will lose some viewers who wanna see Floyd.
I agree that UFC has more depth but there is little depth to HW fighters across the board. Sucks fedor went to Strike Force. Is Sylvia still fighting or is he boxing full time? I heard he got his ass knocked out by Ray Mercer.
Miklo
08-22-2009, 03:59 PM
Yea he got owned by Mercer. Who knows what he's doing with his life, just trying to get money wherever he can. He's just a giant slob.
el boracho
08-23-2009, 09:04 PM
The mid-level Heavyweights in the UFC are still better than the likes of Arlovski, Sylvia, etc IMO. I'd rather see Brock, Shane Carwin, Frank Mir, Noguiera, Velazquez, hell even Cro Cop over Arlovski or Sylvia against Fedor.
What about the UFC pitting UFC 103 up against Money Mayweather on Sept. 19? Not a smart move, although boxing cards are usually a joke, odds are they will lose some viewers who wanna see Floyd.
giving mma fans an hour of free pre fights on spike tv as well....dumb move going heads up with boxing...outside the main event i dont really like the 103 card...
LB_RA¹Ð³R
08-24-2009, 12:36 PM
giving mma fans an hour of free pre fights on spike tv as well....dumb move going heads up with boxing...outside the main event i dont really like the 103 card...
Not a Tito fan?
Miklo
08-24-2009, 04:39 PM
Not a big fan of Tito against grandpa Mark.
Big O Dick
08-24-2009, 06:03 PM
Not a Tito fan?
Ive never liked the dude either. Ive enjoyed watching every ass whooping he has received.
Big O Dick
08-24-2009, 06:04 PM
Not a big fan of Tito against grandpa Mark.
+1 :penguin:
Tooz72
08-25-2009, 09:21 AM
Hope Carwin can drop one on Lesnars chin......
el boracho
08-26-2009, 12:57 AM
Not a Tito fan?
i used to like the dude but not anymore after he bxtched out on the boxing match with dana white......
el boracho
08-26-2009, 12:57 AM
Hope Carwin can drop one on Lesnars chin......
hell yeah man i cant stand lesnar.....
TruR8r
08-26-2009, 07:03 AM
hell yeah man i cant stand lesnar.....
Really? I think Brock is a bad ass fucker.
Hope Carwin can drop one on Lesnars chin......
x2 doubt it happens though. :bag:
LB_RA¹Ð³R
08-27-2009, 01:33 PM
i used to like the dude but not anymore after he bxtched out on the boxing match with dana white......
Don't really think that's true at all, why would TITO not want to knock that foo out?
I'm lookin forward to seeing him back in the UFC, see if he still has gas in the tank.
Mir responds to Anderson Silva's challenge
http://insidefights.com/2009/08/28/frank-mir-would-love-to-fight-anderson-silva/
Tyson
08-28-2009, 11:47 AM
Man i hope Noguiera beats Couture this weekend....
Tooz72
08-28-2009, 03:14 PM
Time for Couture to just go....
Miklo
08-29-2009, 05:06 PM
I just wanna see a good fight...I'm a fan of both guys.
As for that Silva-Mir article...I'd like to see that happen. I'm always down to see Mir get beat down. But I really doubt Anderson Silva walks around at 220...they're saying he cuts 40 lbs before every fight (when he fought at middleweight, at least)? 210, maybe. 220, though, I doubt it.
TruR8r
08-29-2009, 09:47 PM
Couture it's time to move on.
Big O Dick
08-29-2009, 09:48 PM
Couture it's time to move on.
Yeah, he does. I like both of them and it was a hell of a fight but Randy needs to stop. Hes racking up the losses now.
TruR8r
09-09-2009, 07:38 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AgIIKYSL5Dyls0GLG3SEY2s9Eo14?slug=dm-huertamaynard090709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Miklo
09-10-2009, 01:27 PM
I like Huerta, but I like Maynard even more. Hopefully he beats that ass.
Jon "Bones" Jones is going to be the best fighter MMA has to offer very soon.
LB_RA¹Ð³R
09-10-2009, 02:01 PM
I like Huerta, but I like Maynard even more. Hopefully he beats that ass.
Huerta is going to fuck that foo up! :mean:
TruR8r
09-10-2009, 05:23 PM
Huerta is going to fuck that foo up! :mean:
I hope he does but he needs to fucken stick around. I know he wants to make that money but he can always have that as a side thing.
LB_RA¹Ð³R
09-10-2009, 05:57 PM
^ I agree would hate to see him just take off like that.
Miklo
09-10-2009, 10:45 PM
Jon "Bones" Jones is going to be the best fighter MMA has to offer very soon.
Real talk, Jon Jones has an amazing skill set and he's only like 21.
sraiderguy
09-16-2009, 10:54 AM
Pretty weak UFC card this weekend, although my boys BJJ instructor, Eliot Marshall, is fighting on undercard. I probably going to only watch Floyd vs. Marquez. Like Dana White said it ain't the fight we wanted but it is what we got. I hope Marquez pulls it out.
LB_RA¹Ð³R
09-16-2009, 02:36 PM
UFC Fight Night coming out 2night, Also TUF season 10 tonight. Cant wait
Miklo
09-16-2009, 04:05 PM
Yea should be exciting
LB_RA¹Ð³R
09-17-2009, 01:33 AM
Hell of a night! Huerta didn't fight his best at all. But i loved that Diaz got Guillard on that Choke! that shit was beautiful!
Big O Dick
09-20-2009, 06:56 AM
Rich Franklin should just stop fighting now.
Vitor slapped that dude silly.
LB_RA¹Ð³R
09-20-2009, 01:18 PM
Had my money on Vitor! & he delivered. Dissapointed in Cro-Cop though.
chitown
09-20-2009, 01:33 PM
Rich Franklin should just stop fighting now.
Vitor slapped that dude silly.
:roflmao Glad to hear Vitor served a classic beat down.
Tooz72
09-21-2009, 01:42 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news;_ylt=Av8umcbUiyuP7rYWXCqMvAU5nYcB?slug=ap-herschelwalker-strikeforce&prov=ap&type=lgns
LB_RA¹Ð³R
09-21-2009, 02:19 PM
^ Oh wow.. he finally did it huh. He's been talking about getting in MMA for a while.
LB_RA¹Ð³R
09-22-2009, 08:22 PM
Rampage says he's Done Fighting!
http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Quinton-Rampage-Jackson-says-hes-done-fighting.html
Man if this is true. it fucken sux! Rampage was one of my favorite fighters.
Tooz72
09-22-2009, 08:46 PM
yeah man Id rather watch him at this point instead of Couture, Liddell, etc....
el boracho
09-24-2009, 07:05 PM
Rampage says he's Done Fighting!
http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Quinton-Rampage-Jackson-says-hes-done-fighting.html
Man if this is true. it fucken sux! Rampage was one of my favorite fighters.
is the TUF show still taping or are they done? Thats real interesting....
Miklo
09-30-2009, 05:07 PM
It's done taping and everything. Fuckin Rampage, man.
Tooz72
09-30-2009, 05:08 PM
Whew...I must not look at this thread anymore.
Big O Dick
09-30-2009, 06:14 PM
It says under the article, from Dana that he's not retired, he's just pissed off at him.
I like Rampage, dude is comedy.
el boracho
09-30-2009, 10:42 PM
that kimbo fight was real weak.....dam fat xss just sat on him....Kimbo needs alot of work on the ground and Im sure him training with the American top team will help him out alot..well see
Big Game Geoff
11-04-2009, 11:25 AM
Really looking forward to the Fedor vs. Grim fight. Heeeeel yeah...
el boracho
11-04-2009, 05:30 PM
Really looking forward to the Fedor vs. Grim fight. Heeeeel yeah...
I am too...This will be real interesting...
Big Game Geoff
11-05-2009, 10:11 AM
I am too...This will be real interesting...
Who are you taking? I'm picking The Grim. Everytime I pick against the dude he wins...
el boracho
11-08-2009, 12:14 PM
Vera got robbed against Couture...No way Randy won that one
Tooz72
11-17-2009, 06:58 PM
Looks likes Lesnar could be done.....in bad shape.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dw-lesnar111709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
el boracho
11-17-2009, 08:37 PM
Looks likes Lesnar could be done.....in bad shape.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dw-lesnar111709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
theres rumblings that he might not fight ever again.
Big Game Geoff
11-18-2009, 09:34 AM
That's was years of roids will do to you!..
That's was years of roids will do to you!..
While it can't be proven, it is just hard to believe it was anything but a ton of roids that caught up to him.
Tooz72
11-18-2009, 12:33 PM
prolly back to Wrestling....
el boracho
11-18-2009, 05:36 PM
he had a hole in his intestine. Thats interesting.
el boracho
11-22-2009, 05:41 PM
How the hell did Forest win the fight...Tito won 2 rds and Griff won the 3rd....BS
Big O Dick
11-22-2009, 05:49 PM
How the hell did Forest win the fight...Tito won 2 rds and Griff won the 3rd....BS
Round 1 was close, could have gone either way. I just dont think judges score takedowns as heavily anymore. Tits got round 2 easily but got destroyed in round 3. If I had to guess, the dominance of round 3 swung the decision of round 1 as well.
I saw it for Forrest but if anything could have been a draw. :pug:
el boracho
11-22-2009, 06:07 PM
Round 1 was close, could have gone either way. I just dont think judges score takedowns as heavily anymore. Tits got round 2 easily but got destroyed in round 3. If I had to guess, the dominance of round 3 swung the decision of round 1 as well.
I saw it for Forrest but if anything could have been a draw. :pug:
The scoring system needs to be fixed in the UFC. How the hell does a judge give all three rounds to Forest. Just doesnt make sense.
Big O Dick
11-23-2009, 08:20 AM
The scoring system needs to be fixed in the UFC. How the hell does a judge give all three rounds to Forest. Just doesnt make sense.
That I will agree was complete bullshit. There was only one round that Forrest CLEARLY won..round 3.
I think Tits got the De La Hoya treatment, when he would run in the last rounds and lose a decision. Thats what he gets! Fuck Tits Ortiz, I cant stand that guy.
BUT, he dominated round 2, that judge should be drug tested.
el boracho
11-23-2009, 10:34 PM
That I will agree was complete bullshit. There was only one round that Forrest CLEARLY won..round 3.
I think Tits got the De La Hoya treatment, when he would run in the last rounds and lose a decision. Thats what he gets! Fuck Tits Ortiz, I cant stand that guy.
BUT, he dominated round 2, that judge should be drug tested.
yeah i dont care for tito myself but he won that fight. Worst case that goes to a draw. He won the first two rds 10-9 and he lost the last round by 2 points. Doesnt add up.
I just dont want the UFC to turn into boxing and start giving out some bullshxt decisions.
Miklo
11-23-2009, 10:56 PM
I lost 80 bones on that fight, which sucks, but I do still feel that Tito won the fight. Round 1 was close, but me and my roommate both gave it to Tito. The judge who scored it 30-27 needs to get checked, that's ridiculous for real.
There have been some real questionable decisions happening lately.
Big Game Geoff
11-24-2009, 11:09 AM
Forest dominated the 3rd round, so they gave it to him. I agreed with the split decision, but Tito clearly won the 2nd round...
el boracho
02-01-2010, 11:45 AM
anyone catch the strikeforce card on the 30th of jan? Hershell walker was on it? i didnt catch it dont have showtime.
Big Game Geoff
02-01-2010, 12:48 PM
anyone catch the strikeforce card on the 30th of jan? Hershell walker was on it? i didnt catch it dont have showtime.
Saw it. Hershell dominated some scrub. Same with Bobby Lashley (ex WWE). Also, Diaz had a nice tko over a tough Russian dude and Cyborg was too much for a game chick...
raidergator
02-01-2010, 06:48 PM
Hershel looked fucking chiseled..Hear he won..I didnt get to see any highlights..other than i heard he didn't embarras himself LOl..Who was that Ex Chief? was it Johhny Morton the Ex Lion/ Chief WR? who got Knocked tha fuck out in his MMA debut like 5 seconds into the fight..LOL..I want to see Brock Lesnar fight again..see if Frank Mir gets another shot at the title..
el boracho
02-01-2010, 08:10 PM
Saw it. Hershell dominated some scrub. Same with Bobby Lashley (ex WWE). Also, Diaz had a nice tko over a tough Russian dude and Cyborg was too much for a game chick...
All kinds of people were hating on Hershell for trying to come into the mma game. Would like to see what he can do given more time to train and some better competition. Strikeforce needs to go back to CBS.
All kinds of people were hating on Hershell for trying to come into the mma game. Would like to see what he can do given more time to train and some better competition. Strikeforce needs to go back to CBS.
Yo El B, go post in the NBA thread hahahahahahaha
el boracho
02-01-2010, 11:18 PM
Yo El B, go post in the NBA thread hahahahahahaha
haha.. yeah man that game was shit. Lets talk some UFC 109 couture vs coleman. Battle of the old timers. haha
BigPrimo
02-02-2010, 11:41 AM
I was impressed!!!
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el boracho
02-02-2010, 11:50 AM
dam impressive. To think the dude gets ripped by just doin pushups and situps at that age. It will be interesting to see whats next for him with more training and experience.
raidergator
02-02-2010, 12:09 PM
I watched walkers interview last week and he said he had been involved with Tai Kwon Do since before his playing days with Georgia and the NFL.. he said something to the fact he was a 3rd degree blackbelt back almost 30 years ago..so I'm not gonna knock him for wanting to try MMA out..he looks pretty chiseled for being 47..the dude has a physicque of a 20 year old..Pretty impressive for him to fight..throw down like that..I know the opponant was dishrag bum, but I give respect for Walker for even stepping into the ring..Be cool to see how far Walker can go with this..he was always a phenominal athlete..
el boracho
02-02-2010, 06:07 PM
I watched walkers interview last week and he said he had been involved with Tai Kwon Do since before his playing days with Georgia and the NFL.. he said something to the fact he was a 3rd degree blackbelt back almost 30 years ago..so I'm not gonna knock him for wanting to try MMA out..he looks pretty chiseled for being 47..the dude has a physicque of a 20 year old..Pretty impressive for him to fight..throw down like that..I know the opponant was dishrag bum, but I give respect for Walker for even stepping into the ring..Be cool to see how far Walker can go with this..he was always a phenominal athlete..
Really interesting. Didnt know he was a blackbelt. I would really would like to see him do some things and prove all these haters wrong.
raidergator
02-04-2010, 07:19 AM
Yeah Its really fucking Cool MMA..I just got into it within the past 2 years..Raiders football wasnt cutting it LMAO!.Several fighters I got into..and everytime I would have a favorite fighter they fucking got Knocked out or dominated..lol..Fell into MMA watching Chuck Liddell..I thought it was funny that the dude looked likea buff Larry the Cable GUY..lol I liked Rich Franklin..Tito Ortiz..Keith Jardine..Rampage Jackson.. BJ Penn..GSP..I can't really nail a fighter down..im just a big fan of the sport now..Fucking lve for fight night now man LOL..Cool thing is I hook up with buds In this college town I'm from..the Sports bar gets the pay perview..no cover charge..I could buy a coke and sip on it all night if I wanted too..but thats not the case LOL..I even managed to get the Wife into it..they have great food..and its my excuse to get all fucked up and rowdy and my designated driver to get my drunk ass home..Real Bummer that the Coleman Couture match is Super Bowl weekend..because I may not make it to the fight this weekend because of pre-Super-Bowl plans..but I will keep my options open..Dana White has created a juggernaut and its growing in popularity..Guy is a genious for bringing this sport to the forefront..hell-uva Promoter...he has me hooked big time..
BigPrimo
02-04-2010, 01:36 PM
looks like Jose Canseco wants to fight Herschel now! I hope Walker beats his ass proper!!!
el boracho
02-04-2010, 01:49 PM
Yeah Its really fucking Cool MMA..I just got into it within the past 2 years..Raiders football wasnt cutting it LMAO!.Several fighters I got into..and everytime I would have a favorite fighter they fucking got Knocked out or dominated..lol..Fell into MMA watching Chuck Liddell..I thought it was funny that the dude looked likea buff Larry the Cable GUY..lol I liked Rich Franklin..Tito Ortiz..Keith Jardine..Rampage Jackson.. BJ Penn..GSP..I can't really nail a fighter down..im just a big fan of the sport now..Fucking lve for fight night now man LOL..Cool thing is I hook up with buds In this college town I'm from..the Sports bar gets the pay perview..no cover charge..I could buy a coke and sip on it all night if I wanted too..but thats not the case LOL..I even managed to get the Wife into it..they have great food..and its my excuse to get all fucked up and rowdy and my designated driver to get my drunk ass home..Real Bummer that the Coleman Couture match is Super Bowl weekend..because I may not make it to the fight this weekend because of pre-Super-Bowl plans..but I will keep my options open..Dana White has created a juggernaut and its growing in popularity..Guy is a genious for bringing this sport to the forefront..hell-uva Promoter...he has me hooked big time..
yeah man its really evovled as a sport the past few years. Very addicting and just about every UFC event is entertaining and competitive. I dont mind dropping 45.00 every month for an entertaining card.
el boracho
02-04-2010, 01:50 PM
looks like Jose Canseco wants to fight Herschel now! I hope Walker beats his ass proper!!!
Canseco will get dropped in a hot second. Herschel will slam his ass to the ground and pound him out.
Sonny Cheeba
02-04-2010, 01:57 PM
yeah man its really evovled as a sport the past few years. Very addicting and just about every UFC event is entertaining and competitive. I dont mind dropping 45.00 every month for an entertaining card.
Did you see those "best-of KOs" specials they had on Spike TV recently? The UFC literally used to be a bar fight! Bare-knuckle, just run up swinging fists, the fight is over in less than a minute. Shit one guy was wearing track pants and a dirty old t-shirt I was dying laughing.
Yeah, I'd say it's evolved quite a bit. The only problem I find is that the events get way over-hyped so when it's a shitty fight (which happens often) people are left disappointed.
el boracho
02-04-2010, 02:03 PM
Did you see those "best-of KOs" specials they had on Spike TV recently? The UFC literally used to be a bar fight! Bare-knuckle, just run up swinging fists, the fight is over in less than a minute. Shit one guy was wearing track pants and a dirty old t-shirt I was dying laughing.
Yeah, I'd say it's evolved quite a bit. The only problem I find is that the events get way over-hyped so when it's a shitty fight (which happens often) people are left disappointed.
yeah they need to bring back those tournaments when they used to fight 3 or 4 fights a night. hah.
Your right though they do hype up some shitty lookin main events but then again you will still get some decent fights out of the card. Maybe Dana and the fertittas should scale down the amount of cards per year. They have a little bit too many cards and some of them are shit.
raidergator
02-05-2010, 08:03 AM
I hate overhyped fights that ends in a first round knockout..or matches where they just stand there and dance away from each other..I have seen some great fight..BJ Penn's last fight was a fucking clinic.. Shogun Vs Machida was another one I liked..Spider Silva is fun to watch too..his technique in that MoyTai clinch is awesome..GSP is another one I like to watch..Nothing better though is when ya have 2 dudes just goin toe to toe every round..Brawling hardcore..Ortiz..Liddell.. Jardine..I just kick myself in the ass for not getting into MMA alot soooner..but its fucking cool that I have Spike and Versus Channel where I can watch all of those old matches..and see the ultimate knockout shows..MMA definetly gets me thru the Football offseason..
el boracho
02-05-2010, 02:49 PM
I hate overhyped fights that ends in a first round knockout..or matches where they just stand there and dance away from each other..I have seen some great fight..BJ Penn's last fight was a fucking clinic.. Shogun Vs Machida was another one I liked..Spider Silva is fun to watch too..his technique in that MoyTai clinch is awesome..GSP is another one I like to watch..Nothing better though is when ya have 2 dudes just goin toe to toe every round..Brawling hardcore..Ortiz..Liddell.. Jardine..I just kick myself in the ass for not getting into MMA alot soooner..but its fucking cool that I have Spike and Versus Channel where I can watch all of those old matches..and see the ultimate knockout shows..MMA definetly gets me thru the Football offseason..
yeah man I also like watching some skilled jiu jitsu guys going at it on the ground. Cant wait to see Demian Maia but in work on saturday. That is one skilled dude in BJJ.
To me what makes this sport so interesting is the many different styles used in the octagon. Your right though MMA definately gets me through the dam NFL offseason.
raidergator
02-05-2010, 04:47 PM
This Maia Guy Brazillian? If he his who I think he is..I watched that UFC Payperview preshow 2 nights ago..I think hes a Special Operation Tactial soldier down there..works for the Govt police..expert in hand to hand combat weapons..and now a UFC fighter.if that dont spell bad ass I don't know what does..lol..I altered my plans for tomorrow night..gotta see this payperview..LOL SuperBowl weekend or not..Im there LOL
el boracho
02-07-2010, 11:37 AM
man that 109 card was really weak. All the fights were boring.
Big O Dick
02-07-2010, 11:44 AM
Coleman looked terrible...like he was a 45 year old former fighter trying to make a comeback....uhh..yeah.
Herschel is one of the most amazing pure athletes ever... the dudes physique @ 47 is amazing... roids or not
el boracho
02-09-2010, 02:37 PM
Herschel is one of the most amazing pure athletes ever... the dudes physique @ 47 is amazing... roids or not
The guys says all he does is pushups, situps, and pullups outside of his mma training. That is crazy.
Tooz72
02-20-2010, 10:18 PM
CAIN!
Big O Dick
02-21-2010, 08:18 AM
See what happens when you step in the cage with a heavy handed Mexican from the Southwest?? LOL
Tooz72
02-21-2010, 08:47 AM
yup, wonder how many mexican boxing fans UFC will win over soon?
el boracho
02-21-2010, 11:34 PM
Cain is the real deal. He definanlty deserves a title shot. It would be interesting to see him go against Lesnar if and when he comes back to the octagon. Lesnar has a whole lot of size on Cain.
Tooz72
02-23-2010, 02:57 PM
lol
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/mma/post/2010/02/ufc-boss-white-labels-frank-mir-idiot-for-wishing-death-on-lesnar/1
Mir: "I want to fight Lesnar. I hate who he is as a person. I want to break his neck in the ring. I want him to be the first person that dies due to Octagon-related injuries. That's what's going through my mind."
chitown
02-23-2010, 03:24 PM
lol
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/mma/post/2010/02/ufc-boss-white-labels-frank-mir-idiot-for-wishing-death-on-lesnar/1
Mir: "I want to fight Lesnar. I hate who he is as a person. I want to break his neck in the ring. I want him to be the first person that dies due to Octagon-related injuries. That's what's going through my mind."
Dana White is right Frank's a idiot, you can't fix stupid.
el boracho
03-01-2010, 10:09 PM
Mir is a fool. I hope Lesnar fucks him up again.
Tooz72
03-04-2010, 08:03 AM
James Toney? :huh:
http://trueslant.com/bencohen/2010/03/04/james-toney-to-fight-in-the-ufc/
el boracho
03-25-2010, 11:43 PM
Real good card this weekend for UFC 111. I would like to see Dan Hardy get the upset over the canadien but i just dont see it happening. Gsp is just to good and he will have to take Hardy to the ground.
I just want to see Mir's face get pounded out . Cant stand that clown.
Big O Dick
03-26-2010, 10:44 AM
Im taking St Pierre..I like to see people with mohawks get whooped.
Miklo
03-26-2010, 07:56 PM
We really haven't seen any versatility or anything from Carwin. He doesn't win exchanges on his feet, he doesn't have a ground game, etc. He just has heavy hands, and if he lands one punch you're done. If it goes past the 1st round, I'll put everything I own on Mir. But I got a feeling Carwin is gonna land one of those shots and put Mir to sleep, and I hope that's what happens. I hate Mir.
I don't see Hardy beating GSP either, GSP's standup has improved a lot, and he has a good chin. He'll beat Hardy convincingly.
Ya'll can hate on Mir but he is a great fighter..Can't take that away from him..
Big O Dick
03-27-2010, 08:46 AM
LOL heavy hands. Nice diction!
el boracho
03-27-2010, 02:51 PM
Ya'll can hate on Mir but he is a great fighter..Can't take that away from him..
hes good and hes putting alot of muscle on to get ready for a lesnar rematch but the dude just talks way to much.
He just has heavy hands, and if he lands one punch you're done.
Right.... and if you're not done you will walk right out of the cage when and if your hardest punch doesn't phase him.
Miklo
03-27-2010, 06:51 PM
Right.... and if you're not done you will walk right out of the cage when and if your hardest punch doesn't phase him.
He's never made it further than a minute and a half in a fight in the UFC. His chin doesn't matter against Mir anyways, I'd bet on Mir submitting him before knocking him out.
Tooz72
03-27-2010, 06:53 PM
Carwin gots pop...
He's never made it further than a minute and a half in a fight in the UFC. His chin doesn't matter against Mir anyways, I'd bet on Mir submitting him before knocking him out.
You missed the joke lol
Tooz72
03-27-2010, 08:35 PM
someone got owned...
Tooz72
03-27-2010, 09:27 PM
5 Rd clinic by GSP...
Sonny Cheeba
03-28-2010, 08:05 AM
Even though it was a boring-ass fight, much respect to Dan Hardy for not tapping, he almost got his arm broken off twice. You would think GSP would take a different approach though, realizing that this dude is NOT gonna tap out, so maybe try throwing more than 5-6 punches the whole fight? But St. Pierre's gotta move up to 185 because nobody at 170 is gonna beat him.
Sonny Cheeba
03-28-2010, 08:06 AM
someone got owned...
Mir spent too much time in the tanning salon and thinkin about Brock instead of worrying about the heavy handed Mountaineer he was facing.
Big O Dick
03-28-2010, 09:11 AM
GSP is officially the most boring pound for pound fighter out there. He fights not to lose and while effective, it's boring to watch.
Great fightah, but not entertaining at all.
el boracho
04-06-2010, 10:44 PM
this abu dabi card is going to be a good one. I want to see Hughes face get pounded in by gracie.
Tooz72
04-06-2010, 11:49 PM
this abu dabi card is going to be a good one. I want to see Hughes face get pounded in by gracie.
haha youre not the only one...
Big O Dick
04-10-2010, 04:16 PM
Cant believe BJ lost...pretty terrible!!!
How long can Spider go on fighting bums? Halfway thru the fight he looked bored and got tired of whooping dudes ass. Dana was actually pissed off at how wack Spider was fighting.
Spider vs GSP..no more bullshitting.
Sonny Cheeba
04-10-2010, 04:41 PM
Dammit! I forgot the card was in one of them A-Rab countries, Uzbekimenistan or some shit....pretty surprised that Penn lost, not the least bit surprised Silva owned that chump he was fighting.
Tooz72
04-10-2010, 10:32 PM
Anderson Silva is one of the most boring fighters I've ever seen. Lacks that killer instinct.....is UFC going to keep signing these guys to put on Martial Arts exhibitions, or sign some actual "fighters". The last 2 PPV main events have been horrid.
Heavyweights is where its at right now.
Tooz72
04-11-2010, 05:43 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-ufcsilva041010
As the fourth round ended in the middleweight championship fight on Saturday at UFC 112 at Ferrari World, Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White picked up Anderson Silva’s title belt and tossed it in the direction of Silva’s manager, Ed Soares.
“I’ll answer the questions about what a disgrace the main event was and what an embarrassment it is,” White said almost immediately upon taking the lectern postfight. “I don’t think I’ve ever been more embarrassed in 10 years of being in this business. It’s the first time I’ve ever walked out of a main event."
By the time the fifth round was winding to a close, the sellout crowd of 11,008 was chanting Maia’s name.
“I’m more unhappy than I was when I walked in the door,” White said after hearing Silva’s lame answers at the news conference. “That’s why I ended the news conference. I couldn’t stand to listen to that [expletive] any more.”
“He doesn’t deserve to fight GSP,” White fairly spat.
:agenda :laugh:
Big O Dick
04-12-2010, 11:28 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-ufcsilva041010
As the fourth round ended in the middleweight championship fight on Saturday at UFC 112 at Ferrari World, Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White picked up Anderson Silva’s title belt and tossed it in the direction of Silva’s manager, Ed Soares.
“I’ll answer the questions about what a disgrace the main event was and what an embarrassment it is,” White said almost immediately upon taking the lectern postfight. “I don’t think I’ve ever been more embarrassed in 10 years of being in this business. It’s the first time I’ve ever walked out of a main event."
By the time the fifth round was winding to a close, the sellout crowd of 11,008 was chanting Maia’s name.
“I’m more unhappy than I was when I walked in the door,” White said after hearing Silva’s lame answers at the news conference. “That’s why I ended the news conference. I couldn’t stand to listen to that [expletive] any more.”
“He doesn’t deserve to fight GSP,” White fairly spat.
:agenda :laugh:
Rite. Silva lost me. I turned it off in the 4th. Dana was clearly pissed and did NOT support Silva.
el boracho
04-14-2010, 09:29 PM
theres no way BJ lost that fight. I had him winning rounds 1 thru 4 and losing the 5th. I cant believe one judge had that shit 5 rounds for Edgar. Im not a big BJ fan but that shit was ridiculous. BJ had the belt and you have to convincingly knock off the champ if you want that belt.
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