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<TABLE width=630 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="80%">Raiders | Morrison could move to outside linebacker
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Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders head coach Tom Cable said the team has discussed moving LB Kirk Morrison from middle linebacker to outside linebacker. "I don't know about that yet, but we have talked about it," Cable said.
Bout time!
JRaider17
08-05-2009, 09:13 AM
So Ricky Brown to MLB?
Ricky Brown looks like he gained about 15 lbs. of muscle. Plus he sucks in coverage..moving Mo outside is a smart move
GenRaider
08-05-2009, 09:23 AM
More like they are phasing him out (he is a free agent.)
Big O Dick
08-05-2009, 09:33 AM
But he grew up a Raider fan and was born to be a Raider!!! We cant lose him to FA!!!! LOL
We need a real MLB...period. I would have liked to see Al make a move in the draft and jump up a few spots to get Rey Mauluauguaguauuaua.
David
08-05-2009, 09:52 AM
More like they are phasing him out (he is a free agent.)
thats what i had in mind....
i honestly dont think al is going to resign both Morrison and Howard..
David
08-05-2009, 09:54 AM
But he grew up a Raider fan and was born to be a Raider!!! We cant lose him to FA!!!! LOL
We need a real MLB...period. I would have liked to see Al make a move in the draft and jump up a few spots to get Rey Mauluauguaguauuaua.
what
we got david nixon!
he is gonna save us...
sike...another dam speed demon
lol ricky brown is terrible. 15 pounds is a start i guess. still he isnt physical at all. we need physical backers. not linebackers who can cover and wrap up ok.
But..but... HE WANTS to be a RAIDER
Gridiron PIRATE
08-05-2009, 10:34 AM
It was just a blip from reporters asking what's the deal with Brown in for MLB.
Still, i'm not thrilled with this. As lacking as Morrison's game is, Brown's even worse. Whatever, prove me wrong.
BigPrimo
08-05-2009, 01:42 PM
before we can move Kirk outside we need a mlb who can replace him no?
CrizpyNutz
08-05-2009, 02:35 PM
before we can move Kirk outside we need a mlb who can replace him no?
One would think....but then again...we are the Raiders...anything is possible.... :suicide:
GenRaider
08-05-2009, 03:03 PM
lol ricky brown is terrible. 15 pounds is a start i guess. still he isnt physical at all. we need physical backers. not linebackers who can cover and wrap up ok.
Ricky Brown's issue is he is not very athletic and is horrible in pass coverage. Still, with that being the case, I would want my MIKE to be somebody that is a heavy hitter and a type of enforcer in the run game first and foremost. I want a guy that is going to create violent car crashes from the get go and just attack the football. Brown is a better tackler than Morrison, though.
Morrison is in a dilemma. He has tried to bulk up to play the MIKE but his game suffers. Next, we cannot really move him to SAM on a full time basis as he is not good enough to shed blockers. And furthermore, the WILL (what he played in college) is actually the spot where he would be better at; however, we have Thomas Howard at that spot.
I am all for trying out different scenarios as it relates to finding the right MIKE.
GenRaider
08-05-2009, 03:05 PM
thats what i had in mind....
i honestly dont think al is going to resign both Morrison and Howard..
I think Davis will franchise Howard and try to get him locked up long term.
Sonny Cheeba
08-05-2009, 06:50 PM
Ricky Brown? Didn't he get outrun by Joseph Flacco down the sidelines?
Uuuuugh
yayarea_raider
08-05-2009, 08:33 PM
The thing with Morrison is that he is talented, it's just that not only has he been playing out of position he is a poor tackler in key situations.
I think the Raiders must find a way to get him on the field on passing downs at the very least, but I am still not sure if he could play better at the SAM. R. Brown is a better tackler, but was inconsistent and taken out of plays more-so then him being in them last year.
I think there could be better production with Brown at the MIKE, but no way to tell if it fixes the run d problems just yet. Gerard Warren and T. Sands are still playing nose tackle, which we have seen has been the weakest area of the defense. Not so sure they play a lot better...
With how the Raiders have been defending the run (and Warren/Sands being a far cry from consistent), they'll surely know who to point the finger at if the run d picks up where it left off, considering there was no major effort to bring in a run stuffing nose tackle via free agency or through the NFL Draft.
Ricky Brown? Didn't he get outrun by Joseph Flacco down the sidelines?
Uuuuugh
Wont be as big an issue at Mike... And he would probably come out on passing downs..
Now that I think about it. Depending on how this camp plays out. Let's say Brown pushes Morrison at MLB and plays SLB.
What about Alston? Can Alston win that Sam spot?
AND if Brown IS in fact the Mike going into the opener.. in nickel packages would it be Howard/Morrison or Howard/Alston??
hmmmmmmmm
Gen might be onto something... Kirk may indeed be getting phased out.
cheapshotartist
08-06-2009, 12:43 AM
We need a real MLB...period. I would have liked to see Al make a move in the draft and jump up a few spots to get Rey Mauluauguaguauuaua.
I agree but you know how the Raider way works we just take a player we already have and make him into what we need. :csa:
Ricky Brown? Didn't he get outrun by Joseph Flacco down the sidelines?
Uuuuugh
Same guy. :csa:
GenRaider
08-06-2009, 10:14 AM
The thing with Morrison is that he is talented, it's just that not only has he been playing out of position he is a poor tackler in key situations.
I think the Raiders must find a way to get him on the field on passing downs at the very least, but I am still not sure if he could play better at the SAM. R. Brown is a better tackler, but was inconsistent and taken out of plays more-so then him being in them last year.
I think there could be better production with Brown at the MIKE, but no way to tell if it fixes the run d problems just yet. Gerard Warren and T. Sands are still playing nose tackle, which we have seen has been the weakest area of the defense. Not so sure they play a lot better...
With how the Raiders have been defending the run (and Warren/Sands being a far cry from consistent), they'll surely know who to point the finger at if the run d picks up where it left off, considering there was no major effort to bring in a run stuffing nose tackle via free agency or through the NFL Draft.
No, he is not talented, he is just average. What evidence has led you to the point that he is talented?
CrizpyNutz
08-06-2009, 10:22 AM
No, he is not talented, he is just average. What evidence has led you to the point that he is talented?
And that is really the point isn't Gen. Morrison is not a bad player, nor a great player. He's good, solid, average, decent, serviceable....pick your term for middle of the road. That is, IMO, what we are seeing. A team who reallizes this. They know what they have in Morrison and they know he's one of their top 3-4 LB's, but they are struggling with where to put him, because he doesn't really fit as a complete starter no matter where you put him. WLB may be his best option, but Howard is better.
I agree that Morrison is likely being phased out at some point.
yayarea_raider
08-06-2009, 05:13 PM
No, he is not talented, he is just average. What evidence has led you to the point that he is talented?
I personally see him as one of the better cover linebackers in the league, that has shown can make plays on the ball at times. Didn't see as much as I did from him in that area in 08' as I did from 06-07, but I know he has ability.
Doyers y Esleigher
08-06-2009, 05:30 PM
I personally see him as one of the better cover linebackers in the league, that has shown can make plays on the ball at times. Didn't see as much as I did from him in that area in 08' as I did from 06-07, but I know he has ability.
What use is a pure coverage LB in a 4-3?
yayarea_raider
08-06-2009, 05:37 PM
What use is a pure coverage LB in a 4-3?
Why don't you ask the Raiders. They're the ones who have started him in the middle for three years in a row.
im with gen on this whole thing. morrison is average...best at will but howard is better. your sam and especially mike should be heavy hitting players who can take on blockers and not get walled off.
Doyers y Esleigher
08-07-2009, 02:15 AM
Why don't you ask the Raiders. They're the ones who have started him in the middle for three years in a row.
His abilities will be no better on the outside. He cannot tackle, which makes him absolutely useless as an LB. Even pure cover LB's like Donnie Edwards could bring someone down if they had to.
yayarea_raider
08-07-2009, 05:29 PM
His abilities will be no better on the outside. He cannot tackle, which makes him absolutely useless as an LB. Even pure cover LB's like Donnie Edwards could bring someone down if they had to.
I echoed that earlier in agreement. All I'm saying he has skills in pass coverage...otherwise he's pretty much no use. Sh!tty tackler, bad instincts...yet a lot of the Nation wants the Raiders to pay him big money so he can whiff on tackles for the next 5 years or so.
iceman4444
08-08-2009, 07:59 AM
<TABLE width=630 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="80%">Raiders | Morrison could move to outside linebacker
</TD><TD width="20%"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:59:45 -0700
Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders head coach Tom Cable said the team has discussed moving LB Kirk Morrison from middle linebacker to outside linebacker. "I don't know about that yet, but we have talked about it," Cable said.
Bout time!
Morrison is a joke against the run; he cant' tackle and is easily blocked; he needs to be on the outside.
silver & black
08-08-2009, 08:21 AM
Morrison is a joke against the run; he cant' tackle and is easily blocked; he needs to be on the outside.
This would be considered blasphemy on another site, but, in response to the bolded part of yoyur post... he needs to be on another team.
Morrison is a joke against the run; he cant' tackle and is easily blocked; he needs to be on the outside.
Morrison is a joke against the run. He can't tackle and is easily blocked. He needs to be on the outside.
SONIC
08-08-2009, 03:46 PM
If Morrison is best at Weak Side, where does that leave Thomas Howard?
We definitely need to have a true Strong Side (Sam) linebacker. But above all else, the def. line needs to better their game.
If Morrison is best at Weak Side, where does that leave Thomas Howard?
We definitely need to have a true Strong Side (Sam) linebacker. But above all else, the def. line needs to better their game.
Morrison might be a solid wlb, but i think howard is MUCH better suited there than Morrison. Howard's instincts are improving, he can blitz, as well as tackle fairly well. My biggest knock on Howard is he tends to wrap up and drag down ballcarriers instead of tackle with force. He is around 240 but plays like he is 200 sometimes.
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