If you could be gm.what would you do?

[BADNESS]

Oakland (Raider Nation) California:

The latest embarrassment is over, and maybe we can hope that 25,000 miles above the sky, somebody is mad enough to step up and check JaFuckus and call out the lack of everything today (God Bless & Thank You Sea-Bass & Shane). The "D" tried, but in the end too much time on the field, and bland-base 4 with NO PRESSURE!.

I'm truly at a loss.All the negatives are apparent, but the solutions are harder to determine.

I've grown to really appreciate the opinions of alot of you on R.O.C and unlike other sites, most of you can break-down a game, and analyze personel, and have workable ideas. Besides needing to express the Nation's feelings on my show this week. I really just need to hear what the fuck we can do to turn this shit around. It's 25 years since a championship and 7 since the SB XXXVII
dismanteling.

I pose this question to my fellow Nation citizens.

IF YOU COULD BE GM OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS.WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

and this question comes with these 2 keys:

1) You'd have Full Control over decisions regarding personel, and you could hire, and fire whoever you want. with a say $ 200 million-dollar budget

2)You'd start next year.

Think it out seriously, because THEY don't have any answers, and i just can't take the company line shit anymore. I need HONESTY and the only ones that are going to keep it real is the RAIDER FAN.

I'll be abstaining because i really don't know what to say other than....HELP ME!

[SONIC]

Drafting: Pick up a QB that can read defenses, have quick releases, and is accurate. You don't need a cannon arm to be successful. Take a look at Drew Brees, he isn't the strongest QB, but he is one of the SMARTEST because he dissects defenses like a surgeon.

A WR that can run routes, fake out opposing defenders that are covering him, and has great hands. he doesn't have to have track speed to be a great receiver.

An offensive linemen that is very disciplined and won't commit false starts & holding penalties. That can handle a def. lineman at the LOS and beyond.

A defensive linemen that can penetrate the LOS, can take a double team, is versatile on the line, and can tackle properly when given the chance.

A linebacker who can read what the offense will do. Also, can he tackle properly? Tackling is the BIG KEY.

A CB or Safety that can be like Nnamdi Asomugha and shut down receivers, perform press coverage on receivers at the LOS.

Pick the best player available in each position at the Draft depending on how they are projected to go in the Draft. (Example, if best player is a linebacker, take him in the first round. If best player is a off. or def. lineman, draft him ASAP, and so on)

Coaching Hires: Find a head coach who can come up with sound gameplanning and can discipline players to the point where they don't commit penalties.

Find an Off. Coordinator and Def. Coordinator that can help come up with good playcalling. (Offense, mix it up with run & pass plays) (Defense, use blitzes, use zones that are actually effective, only use the Prevent D on the FINAL play of the game when we are ahead by at least 4 points)

Free Agency: Hire veteran players who have been released and can help out his respective position as a starter immediately. Find out if he is a "leader".

[BlackHeart]

A few things I would do is...

-Hire a capable coach with NFL head coach experience and let him hire his own coaches , make his own personel decisions and just sit back and watch him work.

[Big O Dick]

A few things I would do is...

-Hire a capable coach with NFL head coach experience and let him hire his own coaches , make his own personel decisions and just sit back and watch him work.

This. ^^

Also, no more drafting a QB unless you have a competent staff to bring him along. (See Above)

Just to add,
If you have no idea how to win in modern day football, you have no business putting your nose where it doesnt belong, AL. The last person who went against Al's philosophy is coaching college ball, and still trying to get his money. As long as Al has a breath in his body, we will NEVER see a coaching staff that will be able to do its job. We are stuck with "advisors" who will NOT have the balls to say, no Mr. Davis, this is not going to work, or, no Mr. Davis, I understand he is fast but he is NOT a good football player.

Al talks so much shit about wanting to win but we all know that if it isn't HIS way, its NO way.

[Lil Joker]

A few things I would do is...

-Hire a capable coach with NFL head coach experience and let him hire his own coaches , make his own personel decisions and just sit back and watch him work.

That's all that really needs to be said.

[Lil Joker]

This. ^^

Also, no more drafting a QB unless you have a competent staff to bring him along. (See Above)

Just to add,
If you have no idea how to win in modern day football, you have no business putting your nose where it doesnt belong, AL. The last person who went against Al's philosophy is coaching college ball, and still trying to get his money. As long as Al has a breath in his body, we will NEVER see a coaching staff that will be able to do its job. We are stuck with "advisors" who will NOT have the balls to say, no Mr. Davis, this is not going to work, or, no Mr. Davis, I understand he is fast but he is NOT a good football player.

Al talks so much shit about wanting to win but we all know that if it isn't HIS way, its NO way.

Damn now I miss Kiffin.....

[el boracho]

if i was a GM i would give Al a dam muzzle and tell him im running this shxt...

1st thing i would do is start at the top and hire a player personnel adviser to over see the football operations...then i would start with scouts and front office people and build the foundation of the franchise....wait can a general manager hire people like that? haha...

[iceman4444]

Oakland (Raider Nation) California:

The latest embarrassment is over, and maybe we can hope that 25,000 miles above the sky, somebody is mad enough to step up and check JaFuckus and call out the lack of everything today (God Bless & Thank You Sea-Bass & Shane). The "D" tried, but in the end too much time on the field, and bland-base 4 with NO PRESSURE!.

I'm truly at a loss.All the negatives are apparent, but the solutions are harder to determine.

I've grown to really appreciate the opinions of alot of you on R.O.C and unlike other sites, most of you can break-down a game, and analyze personel, and have workable ideas. Besides needing to express the Nation's feelings on my show this week. I really just need to hear what the fuck we can do to turn this shit around. It's 25 years since a championship and 7 since the SB XXXVII
dismanteling.

I pose this question to my fellow Nation citizens.

IF YOU COULD BE GM OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS.WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

and this question comes with these 2 keys:

1) You'd have Full Control over decisions regarding personel, and you could hire, and fire whoever you want. with a say $ 200 million-dollar budget

2)You'd start next year.

Think it out seriously, because THEY don't have any answers, and i just can't take the company line shit anymore. I need HONESTY and the only ones that are going to keep it real is the RAIDER FAN.

I'll be abstaining because i really don't know what to say other than....HELP ME!

First of all they need to stop the "we are really talented and good" bull crap.

25-75 means you suck.


russell is a bust; end of story; they have to admit it and let him go after his contract is up.

The QB position is a problem; there are no more superstars that I see in the college game; Colt McCoy is far from an NFL QB and Sam Bradford is used to sitting back for 7 seconds and then throwing the ball. In the big games against the best teams Bradfords numbers are way down.

Everyone raves about Jevan Snead from U Miss but he's not having a good year at all. Tim Tebow isn't an NFL QB.

The RAiders aren't alone; Campbell from the Redskins is a joke at times; I've never seen a guy make so many stupid passes.

I havent' really checked much on who is out there but off the top of my head this is what I'd do:

1. They have to get help with the draft and stop worshipping 40 times and all the other NFL combine garbage. If Al doesnt' want a gm then get someone to be the director of player personnel that has some pull.

They have to stop this nonsense that they have talent and that they are a player or two away from the playoffs. They are 25-75 and 1-18 against the AFC west at home; utter dominance. They are 2-3 years away from just being good.

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2. You have to have a QB to win in the NFL.

If it were me, I'd get Philly's Kevin Kolb or Mike Vick; they've already said they cant' keep both of them; either by trade or wait to sign them after they become free agents. Russell can move on after that.

Troy Smith shocked people in regards to his handling of a game and his accuracy and played great in the preseason; some said he should at least play some during the regular season. He also can be cheap to get. Vick looked really good when they lost in the championship game before his problems. Anything is better than what they have now, and they will be cheaper.

Kellen Clemens played well in the preseason and if it wasnt' for the money to Sanchez, the Jets probably would have chose him to start. The players liked his leadership and talent. These are some options but they have to get a qb.

The guy to me that is a stud is South Florida's Matt Grothe but he just tore up his knee. Getting him in later rounds would not be a dumb thing and make him a project.
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3. The Raiders HAVE to get rid of dead weight.

Walker, kelly, Russell, Fargas, and some day Bey are just not worth the money. They all need to be gone when their contracts are up and the Raiders need to admit mistakes.

I was a huge Schaub fan and he's now coming into his own. He's a stud. You have to take risks but without a QB you cant' win.


4. stop obsessing about DB's. They have to go back to the days of shoring up their front 7. Defense is about stopping the run and rushing the passer; end of story.

I think Seymour has to be signed. Warren is a keeper and Ellis still has something left in the tank. They need one more guy to be a solid unit and the draft has some solid DL's coming up or a free agent is possible. It's imperative that they get a rugged tough LB through the draft or free agency.

5. Reward those that earn playing time. They need to stop this committee crap at RB. Let McFadden take 75% of the snaps and Bush 25%. Use the RB's and TE better; their best 2 receivers are Miller and McFadden and they barely get the ball.

Mr. Davis also needs to stop trying to shove his draft picks down our throat in the hopes that he proves everyone wrong. People are now making fun of Bey and Russell; many of the announcers and ex players in the pre and post game shows especially; and it's obvious they can't cut it right now.

Give Al Davis tapes of Cliff Branch and Warren wells to watch all day and stop the nonsense that the 70's are back.

Go back to the olden days and even in the Gruden days. Run slants and crossing patterns and get the FB, TE, and RB in the passing game. If they arent' tough enough to go over the middle, find people that are.

6. I would give a boat load of money and hire Kirk Ferentz the head coach of Iowa. Every friggin college game I see one of the stud coaches make a stupid decision; they are not x and o's guys they are recruiters; they get the best talent.

Ferentz is different. He plays a no nonsense power running game, pro style offense. He loves defense and is a huge x and o's guy. I think he's one of only a few college coaches that can coach in the pro's.

He's no nonsense but he's also a people person and a players coach. I think right now he may be the best college coach in the country.

You still need other things to happen but off the top of my head this is what I'd do.

[cheapshotartist]

Fire the entire coaching staff, trainers, ball boys, cronies, everybody has to go. Then I would hire a competent veteran NFL coach with HC experience and let him hire his entire staff. I would then sit down with my HC and lay down a plan and a foundation to build my team on and move on from there.
:csa:

[Big O Dick]

First of all they need to stop the "we are really talented and good" bull crap.

25-75 means you suck.


russell is a bust; end of story; they have to admit it and let him go after his contract is up.

The QB position is a problem; there are no more superstars that I see in the college game; Colt McCoy is far from an NFL QB and Sam Bradford is used to sitting back for 7 seconds and then throwing the ball. In the big games against the best teams Bradfords numbers are way down.

Everyone raves about Jevan Snead from U Miss but he's not having a good year at all. Tim Tebow isn't an NFL QB.

The RAiders aren't alone; Campbell from the Redskins is a joke at times; I've never seen a guy make so many stupid passes.

I havent' really checked much on who is out there but off the top of my head this is what I'd do:

1. They have to get help with the draft and stop worshipping 40 times and all the other NFL combine garbage. If Al doesnt' want a gm then get someone to be the director of player personnel that has some pull.

They have to stop this nonsense that they have talent and that they are a player or two away from the playoffs. They are 25-75 and 1-18 against the AFC west at home; utter dominance. They are 2-3 years away from just being good.

________________________________

2. You have to have a QB to win in the NFL.

If it were me, I'd get Philly's Kevin Kolb or Mike Vick; they've already said they cant' keep both of them; either by trade or wait to sign them after they become free agents. Russell can move on after that.

Troy Smith shocked people in regards to his handling of a game and his accuracy and played great in the preseason; some said he should at least play some during the regular season. He also can be cheap to get. Vick looked really good when they lost in the championship game before his problems. Anything is better than what they have now, and they will be cheaper.

Kellen Clemens played well in the preseason and if it wasnt' for the money to Sanchez, the Jets probably would have chose him to start. The players liked his leadership and talent. These are some options but they have to get a qb.

The guy to me that is a stud is South Florida's Matt Grothe but he just tore up his knee. Getting him in later rounds would not be a dumb thing and make him a project.
____________________________________


3. The Raiders HAVE to get rid of dead weight.

Walker, kelly, Russell, Fargas, and some day Bey are just not worth the money. They all need to be gone when their contracts are up and the Raiders need to admit mistakes.

I was a huge Schaub fan and he's now coming into his own. He's a stud. You have to take risks but without a QB you cant' win.


4. stop obsessing about DB's. They have to go back to the days of shoring up their front 7. Defense is about stopping the run and rushing the passer; end of story.

I think Seymour has to be signed. Warren is a keeper and Ellis still has something left in the tank. They need one more guy to be a solid unit and the draft has some solid DL's coming up or a free agent is possible. It's imperative that they get a rugged tough LB through the draft or free agency.

5. Reward those that earn playing time. They need to stop this committee crap at RB. Let McFadden take 75% of the snaps and Bush 25%. Use the RB's and TE better; their best 2 receivers are Miller and McFadden and they barely get the ball.

Mr. Davis also needs to stop trying to shove his draft picks down our throat in the hopes that he proves everyone wrong. People are now making fun of Bey and Russell; many of the announcers and ex players in the pre and post game shows especially; and it's obvious they can't cut it right now.

Give Al Davis tapes of Cliff Branch and Warren wells to watch all day and stop the nonsense that the 70's are back.

Go back to the olden days and even in the Gruden days. Run slants and crossing patterns and get the FB, TE, and RB in the passing game. If they arent' tough enough to go over the middle, find people that are.

6. I would give a boat load of money and hire Kirk Ferentz the head coach of Iowa. Every friggin college game I see one of the stud coaches make a stupid decision; they are not x and o's guys they are recruiters; they get the best talent.

Ferentz is different. He plays a no nonsense power running game, pro style offense. He loves defense and is a huge x and o's guy. I think he's one of only a few college coaches that can coach in the pro's.

He's no nonsense but he's also a people person and a players coach. I think right now he may be the best college coach in the country.

You still need other things to happen but off the top of my head this is what I'd do.

Good breakdown. Props.

[BADNESS]

Iceman4444 please forward your resume to:

1220 Harbor Bay Parkway,Alameda,Calif 94502

Uh! You've got a plan that's "real" and "doable". Great analysis!

[CrizpyNutz]

Well, there's a long road to travel here, but let's see what we can do.

1. Clean House
Start by getting rid of the front office and coaching staff that epitomize the lazy, "old way of thinking" era that has plagued this football team for years now. You have to get aggressive and cut out the problems and dead weight holding us back. In some cases, we may have to understand the impacts of some rash decisions, but in the long run, these moves will be better for the team.

2. Start at the Top
Bring in competent football minds to work in the front office, e.g. a GM, a Vice President of football operations, and a real scouting/talent department. Give them clear and concise direction about what their jobs are and let them do them.

3. NFL-caliber Coaching Staff
Work with your newly appointed front office to hire a head coach with the salt to make the tough choices, one who has the desire, drive and can convince everyone he can turn this around. Someone with the character, you want your organization to get behind. Once you have a head coach, let the GM work with the Head Coach to find his staff.

4. Establish a Plan and Identity
Task the coaching staff to decide who this team is going to be. What type of offense and defense do we want to run and commit to it. An entire culture must be fixed in Oakland and it starts at the top. The best way to improve a team and be successful with player acquisition is to know what role(s) the player will play on the team. Constantly changing from WCO to Bed an Breakfast, or from 4-3 Base to 3-4 Bltizing, tough or finesse, etc. will waste money, time and talent. Hire coaches that know what you want to do and stick to it.

5. Fill out the roster
Once you have a front office and coaching staff in place, with full understanding of the schemes you want to run, it's time to purge the roster and build back up again. Anyone who doesn't fit the scheme, doesn't have the work ethic, talent or desire to fully commit to the new direction, is gone. Cut or trade but move that player. The front office then needs to start identifying players that fit the mold of what you want to do. It's unreasonable to think an entire team that is this bad can be turned around in a year, so start with the foundation. Get the OL and DL in order. Get down to basics and find football players, not necessarily athletes, but football players to fill those roles.

6. Stick to your Guns
Have faith in those you hired and let them do their job. Everyone, however, is held accountable for not doing their jobs including the front office down to the practice squad.

Well, it's a start anyway. I avoided using specific names, I'll let my front office and coaches identify who those people/players will be.

[Santee]

Im in.

[Big O Dick]

Well, there's a long road to travel here, but let's see what we can do.

1. Clean House
Start by getting rid of the front office and coaching staff that epitomize the lazy, "old way of thinking" era that has plagued this football team for years now. You have to get aggressive and cut out the problems and dead weight holding us back. In some cases, we may have to understand the impacts of some rash decisions, but in the long run, these moves will be better for the team.

2. Start at the Top
Bring in competent football minds to work in the front office, e.g. a GM, a Vice President of football operations, and a real scouting/talent department. Give them clear and concise direction about what their jobs are and let them do them.

3. NFL-caliber Coaching Staff
Work with your newly appointed front office to hire a head coach with the salt to make the tough choices, one who has the desire, drive and can convince everyone he can turn this around. Someone with the character, you want your organization to get behind. Once you have a head coach, let the GM work with the Head Coach to find his staff.

4. Establish a Plan and Identity
Task the coaching staff to decide who this team is going to be. What type of offense and defense do we want to run and commit to it. An entire culture must be fixed in Oakland and it starts at the top. The best way to improve a team and be successful with player acquisition is to know what role(s) the player will play on the team. Constantly changing from WCO to Bed an Breakfast, or from 4-3 Base to 3-4 Bltizing, tough or finesse, etc. will waste money, time and talent. Hire coaches that know what you want to do and stick to it.

5. Fill out the roster
Once you have a front office and coaching staff in place, with full understanding of the schemes you want to run, it's time to purge the roster and build back up again. Anyone who doesn't fit the scheme, doesn't have the work ethic, talent or desire to fully commit to the new direction, is gone. Cut or trade but move that player. The front office then needs to start identifying players that fit the mold of what you want to do. It's unreasonable to think an entire team that is this bad can be turned around in a year, so start with the foundation. Get the OL and DL in order. Get down to basics and find football players, not necessarily athletes, but football players to fill those roles.

6. Stick to your Guns
Have faith in those you hired and let them do their job. Everyone, however, is held accountable for not doing their jobs including the front office down to the practice squad.

Well, it's a start anyway. I avoided using specific names, I'll let my front office and coaches identify who those people/players will be.

Another excellent analysis. A+ as always Crispy. :beer:

[sraiderguy]

The QB position is a problem; there are no more superstars that I see in the college game; Colt McCoy is far from an NFL QB and Sam Bradford is used to sitting back for 7 seconds and then throwing the ball. In the big games against the best teams Bradfords numbers are way down.

Everyone raves about Jevan Snead from U Miss but he's not having a good year at all. Tim Tebow isn't an NFL QB.

The RAiders aren't alone; Campbell from the Redskins is a joke at times; I've never seen a guy make so many stupid passes.


________________________________

2. You have to have a QB to win in the NFL.

If it were me, I'd get Philly's Kevin Kolb or Mike Vick; they've already said they cant' keep both of them; either by trade or wait to sign them after they become free agents. Russell can move on after that.

Troy Smith shocked people in regards to his handling of a game and his accuracy and played great in the preseason; some said he should at least play some during the regular season. He also can be cheap to get. Vick looked really good when they lost in the championship game before his problems. Anything is better than what they have now, and they will be cheaper.

Kellen Clemens played well in the preseason and if it wasnt' for the money to Sanchez, the Jets probably would have chose him to start. The players liked his leadership and talent. These are some options but they have to get a qb.

The guy to me that is a stud is South Florida's Matt Grothe but he just tore up his knee. Getting him in later rounds would not be a dumb thing and make him a project.
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QB is a definite need, but drafting one is out of the question since the Raiders have no clue how to develop one.

[BlackHeart]

Im in.

BANNED !!! We don't use that here.

[Lil Joker]

BANNED !!! We don't use that here.

Nope we use "I'm a Cable guy":fiesta:

:roflmao

[Nemesys]

Great posts by Iceman and Crizpy. :beer:

[yayarea_raider]

3. NFL-caliber Coaching Staff
Work with your newly appointed front office to hire a head coach with the salt to make the tough choices, one who has the desire, drive and can convince everyone he can turn this around. Someone with the character, you want your organization to get behind. Once you have a head coach, let the GM work with the Head Coach to find his staff.



This staff is by far an NFL caliber coaching staff. Just saying. Let me do a little curve here and talk about what needs to happen now.

Obviously the main problem with the Raiders now is that they are passing too much. Before they can do that they have to run the ball, WHICH THEY CAN'T.

If Cable can't get the offensive line/running game issues (C, RG, RT..yeah it's bad) cleared up and win 2 out of the next four games-

Things could be out of reach, and the light for "give up" could really start going on early. Things may look that way now but there is still a lot of football to be played.

If this OL looks like this or even worse from now on maybe slide Morris over to guard and start Wade if he's even healthy or available. Carlisle hasn't shown what he did here in 2007 and 2008 for the running game.

Haven't seen enough of Satele to sway for him to start anywhere. Get Barnes over at RT relatively soon and see if he fairs better than Green (he'll be back in a few weeks).

Erik Pears got beat up the worst at LG and RT. If he starts I may not even want to watch the game. I think I'll be tuning out of this one before the half barring a full running game recovery against one of the best defensive lines in football.

And start Michael Bush. At least he can find lanes, and can maneuver better than Fargas.

Walker needs to be on the field. Maybe he can get open a couple times and show us he can play. I think this was the time to give Walker a look with Schilens out.

Questionable decision (Al) to start DHB from the get go across from another rookie in Murphy. Can say the same for not drafting an OT and OG. They are paying for that right now.

Davis being involved so much does hurt the team greatly, but maybe someone else can get the job done up front on the OL and things can start to gel. The whole right side of the line has stunk big time. Mario Henderson has been the lone dude who can hold his own with Gallery out.

The defensive lines get tougher too. SD, KC and HOU ain't sh*t compared to PHI, NYG, NYJ, PIT, BAL...

[CrizpyNutz]

^ yaya....

I am making no reflection on our current staff other than they all must go - if I was to call the shots - if for no better reason than to start over with a fresh outlook, direction and culture. I want my front office to find "their" head coach and that head coach to find his staff with which to work with. Start fresh.

We could debate how "NFL caliber" our current staff is, but that's notthe point of this thread.

[JRaider17]

A few things I would do is...

-Hire a capable coach with NFL head coach experience and let him hire his own coaches , make his own personel decisions and just sit back and watch him work.

This and get a GM and new scouts.