Fuck Ben

[cheapshotartist]

Now that this piece of shit has been suspended the NFL Channel is saying the Raiders are the only team interested in his young girl chasing ass. I would not be surprised, he is a good QB and better than any QB on our current roster. However I would not trade for his ass, he has developed a pattern of doing the same type of shit on a regular basis. While I want the team to improve I'd rather see us hire some talented front office people and let them fix shit than bring in this motherfucker. If we do trade for his ass I can't support him in S&B. A lot of fans who want to "just win baby" would jump for joy If we signed his ass. To each his own, I can't fuck with him or Vick. I know he was not convicted of anything but I read the Police Report and Ben is one fucked up individual.
:nono::nono::nono::nono::csa:

[Don]

I said the same shit. What really killed it for me, obviously besides the police report, is the fact that he had to read his apology letter, rocking that fag ass chester molester haircut. I dont think he'd be a good choice for us, and I for one am extremely opposed to men who practice sexual violence against women.

[DED]

he isnt coming to Oakland, just sayin. as are the reel sources.

[Jenny]

I agree completely, CSA. Hope rumors are wrong. Guess we'll know within a few hours...

[JRaider17]

Hes not coming here so atleast its not our problem.

[DED]

Seems al wont budge on #8 pick. Props if true...


Raiders | No longer in running for Ben Roethlisberger
Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:08:25 -0400

The Oakland Raiders are no longer a potential trading partner with the Pittsburgh Steelers for QB Ben Roethlisberger, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

[Don]

dahs gud neuz

[Demon]

Really ? For a Oakland thug CSA I sure dont see alot of the he said she said crap that you should know about when cops are writing a police report. Especialy when drinking and drugs are involved. You can only fall back on one fact in any of these alegged rape cases. If they dont follow through with he charges then they are either lying or taking money to shut up. That takes them out of the " victim " catagory always.

The NFL didn't suspend his ass for being accused of rape. They suspended him for buying and drinking alchohol with minors. This holier than thow shit kills me. I am definitley not a on the bandwagon with Ben guy . But saying that you dont want him as a Raider because he likes to get 20 year old girls drunk is stupid.

Id take this guy on our Roster in a heartbeat. For our #1 pick. I pretty sure our track record proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that we fucking suck at picking wih our #1. Anyway to lose it and get something back is a bargain in my opinon.

If this happens , and thats a big " If " we still would need to worry about boy wonder jamarcus playing for 4 to 6 games . Why does our owner have to be such a control freak.

LMAO at a schefter report . That guy is about as reliable as single ply toilet paper.

[DED]

I just dont see how giving up anything that early for Ben would be positive in the long run with our o-line in shambles. No true LT, shitty play from Center, RG, and RT. Al hasnt been picking up anyone marginally decent on the o-line either in FA. Satele? Barnes? Pears? Kwame? (shit like this makes me miss Barry Penalty Sims)

Besides the suspension hed prolly get hurt before seasons over.

But then again we may be better off letting others draft our O-line and trading, or acquiring them down the road. What a mess.

[Big O Dick]

Like I said before, if he wants to act like a sleeze ball, he needs to find trashier chicks...where rape isnt even necessary, they give up the burger like in and out.

[Demon]

I just dont see how giving up anything that early for Ben would be positive in the long run with our o-line in shambles. No true LT, shitty play from Center, RG, and RT. Al hasnt been picking up anyone marginally decent on the o-line either in FA. Satele? Barnes? Pears? Kwame? (shit like this makes me miss Barry Penalty Sims)


Besides the suspension hed prolly get hurt before seasons over.

But then again we may be better off letting others draft our O-line and trading, or acquriing them down the road. What a mess.

If we knew Al was going to beef up the O line in this draft I would say dont trade any picks for anyone. Lets build this team the way your suppose to . From the O line back. But why do we keep talking on the premise that Al is going o do anything about our line ? The last 7 years havent seen anything . What makes this year any diffirent ?

[DED]

Even after this draft Im sure our #8 will be converted to Guard or RT..... :(

[Boom]

Like I said before, if he wants to act like a sleeze ball, he needs to find trashier chicks...where rape isnt even necessary, they give up the burger like in and out.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Jenny]

Really ? For a Oakland thug CSA I sure dont see alot of the he said she said crap that you should know about when cops are writing a police report.

Reading the deposition (or whatever you call it) of several of her friends brought it out of the he said/she said category for me. Am I 100% certain that he raped her? No, but some shady stuff was definitely going on.

If they dont follow through with he charges then they are either lying or taking money to shut up. That takes them out of the " victim " catagory always.

Incorrect. "Might" be true in some cases, but to say it's either/or is not accurate.

At any rate, we don't need a distraction like BenR on this team, IMO.

[Raiderfunk]

I've tried to not get moralistic about Ben...but here's my thing.

Buying drinks for stupid ass under-age chicks is foul. I have been in enough situations where a chick hit the potion and some dank...let you fuck her raw and then wake up up kiss you the next morning then you call em and they start screaming that they gunna have the boyfriend/dad/cousin fuck you up because "you know what you did!".

Drinking and Drugs really does make you do shit you prolly wouldn't consider. I think the police report said that she initially said that she just gave up the pussy because he wasn't going to stop asking..even though she didn't really wanna fuck. See...all that bullshit is why I don't like to be around drunk chicks. Not trying to be a male chauvinist asshole...but I'm keeping it 100.

You are a celebrity...and at the very least you took advantage of a chick drunk off her ass...a young chick at that...makes you a bitch ass in my book.

[TAPE]

Ben needs to be made ahard example.... and I don't want to think about what Ben would do behind that shitty line in Oakland anyway

[Raiderfunk]

Like I said before, if he wants to act like a sleeze ball, he needs to find trashier chicks...where rape isnt even necessary, they give up the burger like in and out.

now this is the truth...like I tell the young homies...the chick should be down to let you fuck before they start drinking.

[Boom]

Ben needs to be made ahard example.... and I don't want to think about what Ben would do behind that shitty line in Oakland anyway

Ben would manage behind our shitty line.. He's been getting sacked like a mofo in Pittsburgh too.

[Bullshit Tracker]

I've tried to not get moralistic about Ben...but here's my thing.

Buying drinks for stupid ass under-age chicks is foul. I have been in enough situations where a chick hit the potion and some dank...let you fuck her raw and then wake up up kiss you the next morning then you call em and they start screaming that they gunna have the boyfriend/dad/cousin fuck you up because "you know what you did!".

Drinking and Drugs really does make you do shit you prolly wouldn't consider. I think the police report said that she initially said that she just gave up the pussy because he wasn't going to stop asking..even though she didn't really wanna fuck. See...all that bullshit is why I don't like to be around drunk chicks. Not trying to be a male chauvinist asshole...but I'm keeping it 100.

You are a celebrity...and at the very least you took advantage of a chick drunk off her ass...a young chick at that...makes you a bitch ass in my book.

I agree.

Dude's a famous Superbowl winning QB and he's lowered himself to getting chicks drunk and begging for sex!? Wow. He could be at the Playboy mansion if he wanted to, but instead, he's STILL partying with underage college kids, in some podunk town . College is over, Ben. Grow up.

I'm pretty sure he didn't rape this chick, but the way he went about fucking her was pathetic and sleazy, if you ask me.

[cheapshotartist]

Really ? For a Oakland thug CSA I sure dont see alot of the he said she said crap that you should know about when cops are writing a police report. Especialy when drinking and drugs are involved. You can only fall back on one fact in any of these alegged rape cases. If they dont follow through with he charges then they are either lying or taking money to shut up. That takes them out of the " victim " catagory always.

The NFL didn't suspend his ass for being accused of rape. They suspended him for buying and drinking alchohol with minors. This holier than thow shit kills me. I am definitley not a on the bandwagon with Ben guy . But saying that you dont want him as a Raider because he likes to get 20 year old girls drunk is stupid.

Id take this guy on our Roster in a heartbeat. For our #1 pick. I pretty sure our track record proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that we fucking suck at picking wih our #1. Anyway to lose it and get something back is a bargain in my opinon.

If this happens , and thats a big " If " we still would need to worry about boy wonder jamarcus playing for 4 to 6 games . Why does our owner have to be such a control freak.

LMAO at a schefter report . That guy is about as reliable as single ply toilet paper.

I'm a retired Oakland Thug Son, I'm a great grandfather and an elder in my community now.:) I don't think the way I did as a youngster I have four daughters, six grand daughters and one great grand daughter so I view woman a lot differently than I did back in the day. As far as my beefs with the Pigs I'll never be cool with those mofos but who covered this shit up for Ben? The motherfucken Police! His two "body guards" were off duty cops. Who would not let the woman's friends go see about her? A cop. Who took her in "the back" so she could be alone with Ben? A cop. Who erased the video of the whole event? More than likely a cop. Who just resigned over this whole mess? The local Police Sgt who led the first investigation. The Police are the reason there was not enough evidence to charge Ben's punk ass. Please read the Police Report.http://deadspin.com/5518136/the-roethlisberger-documents-his-penis-was-already-out-of-his-pants?skyline=true&s=i This is bigger than Raider football and winning is not more important than my personal morals. I hate to say it buy I'd rather roll with the stiffs we have a QB than Ben. Fuck Ben.
:nono::nono::nono::nono::csa:

[Boom]

I'm a retired Oakland Thug Son, I'm a great grandfather and an elder in my community now.:) I don't think the way I did as a youngster I have four daughters, six grand daughters and one great grand daughter so I view woman a lot differently than I did back in the day. As far as my beefs with the Pigs I'll never be cool with those mofos but who covered this shit up for Ben? The motherfucken Police! His two "body guards" were off duty cops. Who would not let the woman's friends go see about her? A cop. Who took her in "the back" so she could be alone with Ben? A cop. Who erased the video of the whole event? More than likely a cop. Who just resigned over this whole mess? The local Police Sgt who led the first investigation. The Police are the reason there was not enough evidence to charge Ben's punk ass. Please read the Police Report. This is bigger than Raider football and winning is not more important than my personal morals. I hate to say it buy I'd rather roll with the stiffs we have a QB than Ben. Fuck Ben.
:nono::nono::nono::nono::csa:

http://deadspin.com/5518136/the-roethlisberger-documents-his-penis-was-already-out-of-his-pants?skyline=true&s=i



You're 100% correct about this.

[TAPE]

Ben would manage behind our shitty line.. He's been getting sacked like a mofo in Pittsburgh too.

Ben getting sacked in Pitt was a product of him pump faking to death and holding onto the ball too long trying to make something happen.... Over in Oakland... he would be on his back before he even had a chance...

[BigPrimo]

Sorry but that chick is every much to blame for this shit as Ben is.

Ben is a sorry Mofo with no game. I mean hes a SB winning QB and he cant get no Pussy??? haha. Weak ass lame. But this bitch followed him and his group from club to club either trying to stalk him or get free drinks and party with a celeb or worse, look for a payday.

Some of you should know the rules. We would kill anyone who takes advantage of a woman in our family but at the same time THEY NEED TO KNOW TO NEVER PUT THEM SELVES IN A BAD SITUATION.

Its like the Stallworth situation, everyone blames him and yes he shouldnt have been drinking and driving but we all wanna forget the fact that the MAN WHO GOT HIT RAN ACROSS A FUCKING EXPRESS HIGHWAY AT 6AM IN THE MORNING! As much as Stallworth is wrong for DUI, the man died because HE PUT HIMSELF IN A BAD SITUATION.

IF Ben did this he's real f'd up and he will get his cause KARMA IS A BITCH especially in the BAY, but if his only crime is giving alchohol to someone who isnt 21 then he should be punished for that and be able to move on. Because these women are also predators, remeber that!!

I say offer our 2nd and 3rd and maybe our 3rd and 4th next year and either they take it or leave it! I wouldnt move the 8th pick unless we get more picks in the first!!!

[Demon]

I just dont see how giving up anything that early for Ben would be positive in the long run with our o-line in shambles. No true LT, shitty play from Center, RG, and RT. Al hasnt been picking up anyone marginally decent on the o-line either in FA. Satele? Barnes? Pears? Kwame? (shit like this makes me miss Barry Penalty Sims)

Besides the suspension hed prolly get hurt before seasons over.

But then again we may be better off letting others draft our O-line and trading, or acquiring them down the road. What a mess.

Because us usingthe Number 8 pick for something other than the O line is what AL is probably going to do which in m opinion is a waste. Our frist pick should start at the o line.

Reading the deposition (or whatever you call it) of several of her friends brought it out of the he said/she said category for me. Am I 100% certain that he raped her? No, but some shady stuff was definitely going on.



Incorrect. "Might" be true in some cases, but to say it's either/or is not accurate.

At any rate, we don't need a distraction like BenR on this team, IMO.

I'm a retired Oakland Thug Son, I'm a great grandfather and an elder in my community now.:) I don't think the way I did as a youngster I have four daughters, six grand daughters and one great grand daughter so I view woman a lot differently than I did back in the day. As far as my beefs with the Pigs I'll never be cool with those mofos but who covered this shit up for Ben? The motherfucken Police! His two "body guards" were off duty cops. Who would not let the woman's friends go see about her? A cop. Who took her in "the back" so she could be alone with Ben? A cop. Who erased the video of the whole event? More than likely a cop. Who just resigned over this whole mess? The local Police Sgt who led the first investigation. The Police are the reason there was not enough evidence to charge Ben's punk ass. Please read the Police Report.http://deadspin.com/5518136/the-roethlisberger-documents-his-penis-was-already-out-of-his-pants?skyline=true&s=i This is bigger than Raider football and winning is not more important than my personal morals. I hate to say it buy I'd rather roll with the stiffs we have a QB than Ben. Fuck Ben.
:nono::nono::nono::nono::csa:

Ok lets get his straight right off. I dont think I know anyone who thinks raping or trying to rape a women is ok. Second , I was raised to respect women in every aspect of life. I never needed to come to those terms through trial and error.

With that being said, As you put it so well CSA. Cops are as slimy as people who dont have a license to kill. So the whole story is convaluted from the get go. Blame this blame that ..... read this , read that. Again how do make assumptions by what someone else wrote down when you arent even clear that the person writing it down is telling the truth ? Assumption when someones freedom is on the line is not a concept I would think you would endorse. Not one of us was there and we only have what we read. If the LAW and the NFL feel that old Ben is not a rapists and the girl who was claiming to be raped isnt persuing the claim ( there are many ways to do this , not just what the cops wrote) then I cant rightly call ol Ben a rapists can I ? A dumbass fo sure , a moron hell yeah. But its a long way from acting like a idiot and forcing someone to have sex.

You got your opinion on what he is. i just found it strange that somone who most likley has been wrongly prosecuted by cops at some point would pass judgement on someone else with imformation gathered by those same cops. Been there myself and I do believe most cops are not worth the badge they carry.

Sorry jenny Idont want you to think that I feel Ben was completley innocent. thats not what I am saying. Im just not going to pass judgement on a guy or girl who hasnt been convicted . Especialy because of somethig I have read on the internet.

[Raidermofojeff]

Much respect to you cheapshotartist
I think your whole point is money.....

I don't know exactly if and what Ben is guilty for......but I know poor and working class folks don't get the same kind of justice he did...As Raider fans we should at least hold our players to the standards inmates hold one another to in prison...Last I heard rapists are not well thought of in prison. That said, at very minimum with 3 separate incidents (though no convictions), Raider fans should at least be apprehensive IMO.

Personally I don't want the guy, but it's a little bothersome that some people don't think twice.
just my opinion.......and we still need a lot of other things than a QB to be legit......Though some think otherwise....The schedule looks tough and I'm skeptical if the team can even get 5 wins again this season....I have strong doubts they can........

[cheapshotartist]

Because us usingthe Number 8 pick for something other than the O line is what AL is probably going to do which in m opinion is a waste. Our frist pick should start at the o line.





Ok lets get his straight right off. I dont think I know anyone who thinks raping or trying to rape a women is ok. Second , I was raised to respect women in every aspect of life. I never needed to come to those terms through trial and error.

With that being said, As you put it so well CSA. Cops are as slimy as people who dont have a license to kill. So the whole story is convaluted from the get go. Blame this blame that ..... read this , read that. Again how do make assumptions by what someone else wrote down when you arent even clear that the person writing it down is telling the truth ? Assumption when someones freedom is on the line is not a concept I would think you would endorse. Not one of us was there and we only have what we read. If the LAW and the NFL feel that old Ben is not a rapists and the girl who was claiming to be raped isnt persuing the claim ( there are many ways to do this , not just what the cops wrote) then I cant rightly call ol Ben a rapists can I ? A dumbass fo sure , a moron hell yeah. But its a long way from acting like a idiot and forcing someone to have sex.

You got your opinion on what he is. i just found it strange that somone who most likley has been wrongly prosecuted by cops at some point would pass judgement on someone else with imformation gathered by those same cops. Been there myself and I do believe most cops are not worth the badge they carry.

Sorry jenny Idont want you to think that I feel Ben was completley innocent. thats not what I am saying. Im just not going to pass judgement on a guy or girl who hasnt been convicted . Especialy because of somethig I have read on the internet.

I understand where your coming from and what your saying Son. I'm not trying to pass judgment on Ben's punk ass because I've done some fucked up shit in the past myself. I think some what along the line of Primo, Is this the only way this motherfucker can get some pussy? This is not the first time he has been in this same situation and if it looks like shit and smells like shit it must be shit. As far as the Police go, fuck the police but that don't mean what Ben did was cool. He is a good QB but as a person fuck his ass. Same thing with Jastiffcus bitch ass, as a player he can't hold Ben's jock strap. Ben got off light, If the tape was available his ass may have gone to the pen. As you said none of us were there so we really don't know what went down.
:csa:

[Jenny]

Sorry jenny Idont want you to think that I feel Ben was completley innocent. thats not what I am saying. Im just not going to pass judgement on a guy or girl who hasnt been convicted . Especialy because of somethig I have read on the internet.

Point taken. You're right; he hasn't been convicted. But the police report holds higher weight for me than just "internet rumors." I just felt like I needed to respond being one of the few women on this board.

Either way, I still say he's distraction that we don't need. His consistent poor judgment proves that.

[cheapshotartist]

Much respect to you cheapshotartist
I think your whole point is money.....

I don't know exactly if and what Ben is guilty for......but I know poor and working class folks don't get the same kind of justice he did...As Raider fans we should at least hold our players to the standards inmates hold one another to in prison...Last I heard rapists are not well thought of in prison. That said, at very minimum with 3 separate incidents (though no convictions), Raider fans should at least be apprehensive IMO.

Personally I don't want the guy, but it's a little bothersome that some people don't think twice.
just my opinion.......and we still need a lot of other things than a QB to be legit......Though some think otherwise....The schedule looks tough and I'm skeptical if the team can even get 5 wins again this season....I have strong doubts they can........

That's what I'm saying Son If it was you or me our ass would be in jail looking at 15 to life on the real. When you have money people "take care" of your ass. This is why the prisons are full of poor people.
:csa:

Point taken. You're right; he hasn't been convicted. But the police report holds higher weight for me than just "internet rumors." I just felt like I needed to respond being one of the few women on this board.

Either way, I still say he's distraction that we don't need. His consistent poor judgment proves that.

Word. :csa:

[Demon]

Point taken. You're right; he hasn't been convicted. But the police report holds higher weight for me than just "internet rumors." I just felt like I needed to respond being one of the few women on this board.

Either way, I still say he's distraction that we don't need. His consistent poor judgment proves that.

I agree . :) I thought Hill was a women ? lmao

[raidergator]

:clap::laugh:Really ? For a Oakland thug CSA I sure dont see alot of the he said she said crap that you should know about when cops are writing a police report. Especialy when drinking and drugs are involved. You can only fall back on one fact in any of these alegged rape cases. If they dont follow through with he charges then they are either lying or taking money to shut up. That takes them out of the " victim " catagory always.

The NFL didn't suspend his ass for being accused of rape. They suspended him for buying and drinking alchohol with minors. This holier than thow shit kills me. I am definitley not a on the bandwagon with Ben guy . But saying that you dont want him as a Raider because he likes to get 20 year old girls drunk is stupid.

Id take this guy on our Roster in a heartbeat. For our #1 pick. I pretty sure our track record proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that we fucking suck at picking wih our #1. Anyway to lose it and get something back is a bargain in my opinon.

If this happens , and thats a big " If " we still would need to worry about boy wonder jamarcus playing for 4 to 6 games . Why does our owner have to be such a control freak.

LMAO at a schefter report . That guy is about as reliable as single ply toilet paper.

:laugh::clap: LMAO well said..great anology Demon..anyone associated with ESPN is like getting shit under the finger nails while using that single ply TP ! I would also take Ben in a heartbeat..in fact I was lobbying hard for Al to select him back in 05? ..too bad Ben wont be here..YET LOL..I sweat to God ESPN will fucking report anything ..fucking irks me that they consider themselvesd a legit network when in reality its tabloid TV that I have to watch games on..Ben has to get caught again with another Minor..serve his 1 year suspension LOL..yeah he may be a fucked up individual..but he still owns 2 Super Bowl rings LOL

[raidergator]

I agree . :) I thought Hill was a women ? lmao


:laugh::clap:yer killin me! lmaooooooooooooooooooo