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Dewn Coon
04-25-2009, 04:09 PM
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE:banghead:banghead

Cable on Heyward-Bey

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, April 25th, 2009 at 3:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.

What Raiders coach Tom Cable said after the Raiders’ selection of Darrius Heyward-Bey with the No. 7 pick in the first round of the draft:

Opening statement: Well, this is a very exciting time obviously, announcing the pick for Darrius Heyward-Bey, a wide receiver from Maryland. This is the guy we wanted all along. It really, as I said probably about a month ago, there’s one guy in the draft who makes our entire team better. He makes Zach Miller better, he makes JaMarcus better, he makes Darren McFadden better, and Justin Fargas, Michael Bush, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Chaz Schilens, on and on and on, we now have a guy that we can throw the ball over the top of anybody and he can go get it. So this is a very exciting team. He helps us obviously what we do running the football but he gives us that deep threat that traditionally has been the Oakland Raiders. Really, just an awesome awesome time for us and excited to have Darrius, look forward to getting him here to minicamp and letting him show some of that speed.

Q: Why him over Crabtree and Maclin?

Cable:: This is a guy that i had targeted a month ago in the thing. He’s the one guy who’s made everyone better around him. We needed, as has been mentioned and written by all of you, we needed the ability to throw the ball over people’s head and JaMarcus has obviously shown he can outthrow most everything. This is a guy now who can go run that down and catch it. As I mentioned, he’s going to make Zach Miller better, and Johnnie Lee and Chaz Schilens and Darren MvcFadden and Bush and ultimately he’s going to help JaMarcus be the kind of quarterback we’re trying to get him to be.

Q: His college numbers don’t suggest that?

Cable: Well, different system and obviously when you look at what he did in yards per catch, his explosiveness, amazing. When you real y break him down and look at him for what it was, his opportunities and attempts, he’s off the chart, far far greater than the others.

Q: Thought of trading down and still getting him?

Cable: No, that was never the plan. We knew what we wanted to do the whole time. This was the choice that we thought we had to have to move this team to the next step.

Q: Any thought of taking Eugene Monroe?

Cable: Not at all. There’s a reason we have Mario Henderson here and Khalif Barnes, Erik Pears, Cornell Green. That may be something we do later in the draft, we’ll see how the day unfolds and obviously tomorrow, but the biggest need on this football team is to get someone to score points and obviously when you look at wh at I just said, his ability to do that and make everyone better around him, we’ve got to score points to win football games.

Q: But he had 13 tds in three years, Crabtree had 41 . . .

Cable: Different systems. If you put the spread system at this level, it doesn’t really exist. Those numbers would be dramatically different. I think the one great comparison that I did that really showed this was the right guy for me, if I put him in that same system, he might have been over 50 touchdowns. He’s that talented.

Q: Offers to trade out of the pick?

Cable: We never ever really talked about wanting to move. We were pretty strong about what we needed to do. Like I said, we targeted this one about a month ago and getting this team where it needs to be, and obviously that’s the ability to score more points. This was the no-question pick.

Q: Comparison with another player?

Cable: We talk to the scouts and everything. They bring up the name Randy Moss and obviously when you look at the history of the great receivers who have been Oakland Raiders, it’s always been about that vertical speed, being able to stretch th field, take that top off the defense and this certainly does that for us.

Q: Did he visit here?

Cable: We’ve worked him out, we visited with him, we’ve done great great diligence on this one. This is the one we wanted in terms of character and talent. And then the numbers and everything kind of speak for themselves.

Q: Was there a time when you thought you might have to trade up to get him?

Cable: There was. There was some time the last two days; in particular, last night it got a little bit nervous because there was some teams that tried to move ahead to get him. So, you really start worrying about all that.

Q: Do you consider him a polished receiver?

Cable: Actually, he was in all the top receivers – there’s really four of them that everybody has talked about; three at the top – he is the best route-runner of that group. Again, he’s the only guy that came out of a true pro-style system. Everyone else was in a spread s ystem. So, his learning curve is much, much shorter than those other guys. Then you got that size, that speed and his ability to go get it. The thing that jumps out at you, this is the one guy at the combine who, at the 30-yard mark, actually changed gears. And there was a whole other warp speed, if you will.

Q: What have you learned about his character?

Cable: He’s got the character that we’re looking for to build this team around. He has honor in everything he does. He has a tremendous family, does the right things. He was a guy that, early in his career, was considered a track guy and really set out as a goal to prove that ‘I’m a football guy’ and has done that. He’s a hard-working guy, did everything that we asked him to do. When you looked and dug, did all the things that we do, never once did you find anything that would detract you from him in terms of his character and his personality.

Q: How is he catching the ball?

Cable: There was some talk about that early, that they were inconsistent. But as we did a breakdown over the last two years, much greater consistency that way. He did a great job at his workout. His workout was phenomenal, just phenomenal. He caught everything at the front end of it, did a great job of being able to react and adjust his body to some tough catches and really kind of sold you on it. Because you started to see some of those things that scouts mentioned earlier, that he could do those awkward things.

Q: Who did you have at the workout and was it at Maryland?

Cable: A scout, had it filmed and taped and did everything that we would normally do.

Q: Was it just the Raiders at the workout?

Cable: No, there was many people at the workout.

Don
04-25-2009, 04:10 PM
seriously that is the stupidest nickname i have ever heard

BigPrimo
04-25-2009, 04:16 PM
to bad Cable isnt man enough to come out and say Al over ruled me!!!

TAPE
04-25-2009, 04:21 PM
lets refrain from calling hima BUST until he actually becomes a "bust"

just my suggestion.

Dewn Coon
04-25-2009, 04:22 PM
alright i apologize for calling him a bust before he becomes a bust, but obviously i am not too happy about this pick

TAPE
04-25-2009, 04:23 PM
We needed, as has been mentioned and written by all of you, we needed the ability to throw the ball over people’s head and JaMarcus has obviously shown he can outthrow most everything. This is a guy now who can go run that down and catch it.

Read that.... Let it marinate.... Let it sink in...

Don
04-25-2009, 04:24 PM
Read that.... Let it marinate.... Let it sink in...

bingo, B. He fits exactly into the mold of what we have designing this whole offense to do...you dont draft a player that dont fit your plan

David
04-25-2009, 04:26 PM
quit the dhbust nickname
i didnt know u can have a bust before he even signs a contract or puts on the uniform.

BigPrimo
04-25-2009, 04:26 PM
lets refrain from calling hima BUST until he actually becomes a "bust"

just my suggestion.

so from what you are saying i get "you cant call a catapellar a butterfly untill its a butterfly even tho its inevitable"

Im saying we arnt teh NY giants who can take a guy liek this and plug him in with all they have and make it work. WE ACTUALLY SUCK, WE NEED FOOTBALL PLAYERS. This dude is a one trick poney, he may be a great 1 trick poney like Moss is and was but Minisota HAD TALENT AROUND HIM AND WAS 1 player away from being a good team WE ARE NOT, WE NEED PLAYERS LIK MONROE, RAJI or CRABTREE, FOOOTBALL PLAYERS!!! HOW DOES NOONE UNDERSTAND THIS?????

BigPrimo
04-25-2009, 04:27 PM
/\/\excuse my spellign im a lil drunk and pissed!!!

Big O Dick
04-25-2009, 04:30 PM
bingo, B. He fits exactly into the mold of what we have designing this whole offense to do...you dont draft a player that dont fit your plan

Thats the hope that Im hanging on right now. He was a run threat in college too. We're a run first team. Crabtree could run the short routes and get open but Im willing to bet his long game will not be a huge factor. DHB has the speed to get deep, stretching the field for McFadden to run.

Yeah, thats my hope.

BigPrimo
04-25-2009, 04:34 PM
Thats the hope that Im hanging on right now. He was a run threat in college too. We're a run first team. Crabtree could run the short routes and get open but Im willing to bet his long game will not be a huge factor. DHB has the speed to get deep, stretching the field for McFadden to run.

Yeah, thats my hope.

if we all hope together maybe the power of our hope will resinate on the field. Im not even gonna trip off DHB. Im going to look forward to seeing DMC play not hurt and with a year under his belt. Any thing DHB does is just a bonus. As far as im concerned we never had a 2009 draft. I do still hope we get teh S Mitchell from Ohio!!!

Don
04-25-2009, 04:36 PM
Thats the hope that Im hanging on right now. He was a run threat in college too. We're a run first team. Crabtree could run the short routes and get open but Im willing to bet his long game will not be a huge factor. DHB has the speed to get deep, stretching the field for McFadden to run.

Yeah, thats my hope.

his game will immediately give DC of opponents an all nighter. I think Crabs will get shut down, these guys never got jammed at the LOS, and DHB actually had to run NFL routes. His speed will make everyone else better just on default

Don
04-25-2009, 04:37 PM
if we all hope together maybe the power of our hope will resinate on the field. Im not even gonna trip off DHB. Im going to look forward to seeing DMC play not hurt and with a year under his belt. Any thing DHB does is just a bonus. As far as im concerned we never had a 2009 draft. I do still hope we get teh S Mitchell from Ohio!!!

where would you grab the missile at? in the third? or fourth

BigPrimo
04-25-2009, 05:43 PM
where would you grab the missile at? in the third? or fourth

looks like the second lol!

TAPE
04-25-2009, 05:45 PM
LOL - the missle... that missle is coming right back to earth buddy

LB_RA¹Ð³R
04-25-2009, 06:06 PM
Q: Was there a time when you thought you might have to trade up to get him?

Cable: There was. There was some time the last two days; in particular, last night it got a little bit nervous because there was some teams that tried to move ahead to get him. So, you really start worrying about all that.

Is he talking about Heyward Bey??

Who would draft this guy b4 the 7th overall pick? let alone the 1st round.

SHADEE
04-25-2009, 06:08 PM
his game will immediately give dc of opponents an all nighter. I think crabs will get shut down, these guys never got jammed at the los, and dhb actually had to run nfl routes. His speed will make everyone else better just on default

i hope so.

or24
04-25-2009, 06:11 PM
lmfao at the comparison to randy moss.

TAPE
04-25-2009, 06:35 PM
is he talking about heyward bey??

Who would draft this guy b4 the 7th overall pick? Let alone the 1st round.

he was a 1st rd pick, no question... No way he slipped to the 2nd

TAPE
04-25-2009, 06:36 PM
lmfao at the comparison to randy moss.

thats who his skill set compares to.. I dont see anything wrong with it...

You dont draft somebody 7th overall and liken him to bernard berrian......

Dewn Coon
04-25-2009, 06:45 PM
I just hope he becomes a legitimate number one receiver. time will tell.

sraiderguy
04-25-2009, 06:50 PM
Read that.... Let it marinate.... Let it sink in...

I with you wait and see.

JRaider17
04-25-2009, 06:54 PM
DHB is ok....the 2nd round pick is the worst.

Dewn Coon
04-25-2009, 07:11 PM
DHB is ok....the 2nd round pick is the worst.

Yeah i dont even know what to say about the 2nd round pick.

iceman4444
04-25-2009, 10:15 PM
I watched DHB in 5 games and it's comical the RAiders picked him; he was shut out in 2 games in the pathetic ACC and in the other 3 games he wasnt' a factor.

He never caught more than 51 passes and avg. 15 yards a catch and it the college game that isn't so exciting in a pro style offense.

Bey is not a pro player; his best play is to run as fast as he can upfield; he cant' run routes and cant' catch the ball.

This is a pathetic pick; the 49ers are drooling over Crabtree;

It's amazing; a guy can't play in college but because he runs fast in gym shorts you pick him; UNREAL.

The nfl combines are criminal; Al Davis has officially lost it.

iceman4444
04-25-2009, 10:21 PM
and I'm soooo sick of "lets wait and see". No I'm not going to wait and see; I know what I've already seen.

You said the same thing for Napoleon Harris, Derrick Gibson, Mike Huff (remember 89% of you saying what a great pick this was on the other site?), Gallery ("we have our left tackle for the next 10 years"; yea right) Buchanon, Walter, George, Brooks, Moss, Washington, Grove, Hall, etc.....

You wait years and then when they are gone and they suck you let it go without a peep. Sorry but these 2 picks are a joke; end of story.

The worst 5 year stretch of football in the HISTORY of the NFL. I know many of you have no idea about the real Raiders and how they dominated for 2 1/2 decades so losing doesnt' bother you, but for many of us that actually lived it; this is pathetic.

BigPrimo
04-25-2009, 11:54 PM
and I'm soooo sick of "lets wait and see". No I'm not going to wait and see; I know what I've already seen.

You said the same thing for Napoleon Harris, Derrick Gibson, Mike Huff (remember 89% of you saying what a great pick this was on the other site?), Gallery ("we have our left tackle for the next 10 years"; yea right) Buchanon, Walter, George, Brooks, Moss, Washington, Grove, Hall, etc.....

You wait years and then when they are gone and they suck you let it go without a peep. Sorry but these 2 picks are a joke; end of story.

The worst 5 year stretch of football in the HISTORY of the NFL. I know many of you have no idea about the real Raiders and how they dominated for 2 1/2 decades so losing doesnt' bother you, but for many of us that actually lived it; this is pathetic.

Amen!!!

TAPE
04-26-2009, 02:09 AM
Hey ice4444.....

So you are completely comfortable with a guy who....

1 - Cant run a lick (and yes it matters when it comes to something called SEPARATION in the NFL)

2 - Played in a college SPREAD offense, which inflated his stats.... Which he will NOT be playing in the NFL.


3 - None of his routes were ran deeper than 15 yards

4 - DID NOT WANT TO PLAY HERE EITHER


Maybe you misunderstand the value of work ethic... Maybe you forget that DHB might not have made it out of the top 15. Players dont get picked in the first round of the NFL draft because they SUCK...

That being said..... As lackluster as DHB's production is.... It is a RUN FIRST offense. He had NO QB throwing to him. He played on a not very good offensive team.

Maryland is not known for developing WR's. But this kid was not recruited by Alabama, Boston College, Michigan State, Pittsburgh, and Virginia for no reason...

All that being said... He is the SECOND all time leading receiver at Maryland... Would have shattered every record if he stayed. Again, this is not a program that develops WR talent. He is raw.

Have you really watched him play???

Did you really watch the games?

Are you talking about the Virginia gamea?? Yea, the same one they lost 31-0???

Im thinking maybe DHB didnt do shit because he was double and tripled all game while Scott managed a WHOPPING 31 yards on the ground...!!

Also, since you saw the game, please....remind me of what Turner was doing in that game... I know, but lets see if you do since you saw it.

No, I will tell you what happened... Chris Turner dumped to valves ALL game... By the time the 3rd quarter was half way the game was over... The leading receiver in that game (Ronnie Tyler) caught 4 of his 5 passes in the 4th qtr (garbage time) they were already down 31-0.

No real excuse for the BC game, but I digress...

Point is, Maryland suffered from some pretty bad QB play, and was a pretty bad team overall who did not emphasize on a passing attack first.

POSITIVES: Game-breaking receiver with home run hitting speed. Quickly releases off the line into routes, immediately gets to top speed, and consistently displays the ability to run away from defenders. Can switch it on in one step, displays tremendous quickness in his all-around game, and makes a lot of acrobatic receptions with defenders draped on him. Easily adjusts to the errant throw, displays good eye/hand coordination, and is an agile pass catcher who gets vertical, extends skyward, and then pulls the pass from the air. Plays with good balance, body control, and effectively uses his frame to shield away opponents. Comes back to the quarterback to make himself an available target.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2009/draft/players/14088.html

GUARANTEED FIRST ROUND PICK AND HE WAS GOING HIGHER THAN PROJECTED ICE!

to top it all off , he is a top notch character guy and has an unparallelled work ethic.

You have every right to be upset with the pick. That is your basic constitutional right.

Was he a reach @ #7, sure.

Were there any trading partners?

And if so, where? If DHB was their guy all along, do they definitely get him moving back?

You can disagree, but saying he will suck has no merit at all.. And you are simply talking out of your ass..

I dont care WHO you projected and mocked. There is a reason you are in the medical field and not in the war room.

raidersforlife
04-26-2009, 03:06 AM
i have no problem with DHB being the pick, not at the current spot though. I just wish we'd have traded down, just stupid not to do so, could've easily gotten an extra 3rd or 4th.

JRaider17
04-26-2009, 06:13 AM
Hey ice4444.....

So you are completely comfortable with a guy who....

1 - Cant run a lick (and yes it matters when it comes to something called SEPARATION in the NFL)

2 - Played in a college SPREAD offense, which inflated his stats.... Which he will NOT be playing in the NFL.


3 - None of his routes were ran deeper than 15 yards

4 - DID NOT WANT TO PLAY HERE EITHER


Maybe you misunderstand the value of work ethic... Maybe you forget that DHB might not have made it out of the top 15. Players dont get picked in the first round of the NFL draft because they SUCK...

That being said..... As lackluster as DHB's production is.... It is a RUN FIRST offense. He had NO QB throwing to him. He played on a not very good offensive team.

Maryland is not known for developing WR's. But this kid was not recruited by Alabama, Boston College, Michigan State, Pittsburgh, and Virginia for no reason...

All that being said... He is the SECOND all time leading receiver at Maryland... Would have shattered every record if he stayed. Again, this is not a program that develops WR talent. He is raw.

Have you really watched him play???

Did you really watch the games?

Are you talking about the Virginia gamea?? Yea, the same one they lost 31-0???

Im thinking maybe DHB didnt do shit because he was double and tripled all game while Scott managed a WHOPPING 31 yards on the ground...!!

Also, since you saw the game, please....remind me of what Turner was doing in that game... I know, but lets see if you do since you saw it.

No, I will tell you what happened... Chris Turner dumped to valves ALL game... By the time the 3rd quarter was half way the game was over... The leading receiver in that game (Ronnie Tyler) caught 4 of his 5 passes in the 4th qtr (garbage time) they were already down 31-0.

No real excuse for the BC game, but I digress...

Point is, Maryland suffered from some pretty bad QB play, and was a pretty bad team overall who did not emphasize on a passing attack first.



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2009/draft/players/14088.html

GUARANTEED FIRST ROUND PICK AND HE WAS GOING HIGHER THAN PROJECTED ICE!

to top it all off , he is a top notch character guy and has an unparallelled work ethic.

You have every right to be upset with the pick. That is your basic constitutional right.

Was he a reach @ #7, sure.

Were there any trading partners?

And if so, where? If DHB was their guy all along, do they definitely get him moving back?

You can disagree, but saying he will suck has no merit at all.. And you are simply talking out of your ass..

I dont care WHO you projected and mocked. There is a reason you are in the medical field and not in the war room.

Nice post, Cable has been saying he wants to build a team with good character, yet all the reports on Crabtree have been saying otherwise. This move makes sense just because of that...

silver & black
04-26-2009, 06:16 AM
Well, this is a very exciting time obviously, announcing the pick for Darrius Heyward-Bey, a wide receiver from Maryland. This is the guy we (AL TOLD ME TO SAY) wanted all along.

Whatever... puppet!